That's why I asked everyone to go into Terminal. When you run machine, it returns the CPU variant ...
Thanks. Is there a list anywhere of the command-line programs that come with OS X, including basic useful stuff like "top" and "machine"? Or is it Apple's position that if you're not an experienced 'Unix geek', to whom I guess these tools are second nature, you have no business using the Terminal at all? All I know about them has come from forum participants here and there, usually in a strongly goal-oriented context, with no explanation as to the motivation for using one tool over another or the choice of parameters.
Or am I better off staying away from these things unless I have a specific need? Prior to OS X's Terminal the last command-line I used was in CP/M ...
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BTW, MacTracker is an excellent app - has been for a long time.
Yes; I just installed it at home on the weekend and did some browsing. Already that's come in useful at work: we've been upgrading parts of the LAN to 1000-BaseT, and I found out that all a couple of the systems need is better cables, while we'd been planning to buy them new Gigabit Ethernet PCI cards.
Anyway, my G4/733 here, AKA "PowerMac 3,4", runs a PPC 7450; I've installed the Albert v4.56 beta, but I don't expect to have any timings to report for several days. Maybe I'll crank up my E@h resource share to get through the existing cache of v4.39 work quicker.
Which times are to expect on a old iMac G3 350 MHz (Summer 2000, MachineID PowerMac2,2) running OSX.3.9? Any improvements with OSX.4?
The OS version shouldn't make much of a difference; I'd expect crunching times to be rather slightly slower on OSX.4, because of background processes (Spotlight). This machine might be comparable to yours, it took 113004.48s CPU-time (maybe 32h wall-clock if you're lucky) for a result with the official App 4.39. The 4.56 should be about twice as fast on non-AltiVec machines.
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Thanks for the answer.
Other OS (maybe 10.3.0), slighty higher benchmarks (maybe 400MHz), but only half of memory.
My iMac 350 has 10.3.9 and 640 MB RAM.
The first reference WU with Albert 4.39 is completed, whooping 34,879.04 sec CPU-Time, thats 9h41m, guessed it much longer :).
Interessting, especally compared to the other Powermac2,2.
My PIII 618MHz needs ca. 16h with the standard-app, 4h15m with akosf S41.06.
- are r1_0288.5 on the short side or is it average?
Now I run the follow WU from the same batch with the new beta app, stay tuned. ;)
The WU with albert_4.56_powerpc-apple-darwin is finished and now pending.
CPU time was 17713.15 sec or 4h55m so its nearly twice as fast as the official app (34879.04 sec CPU-Time, 9h41m) - very nice.
That's why I asked everyone to go into Terminal. When you run machine, it returns the CPU variant ...
Thanks. Is there a list anywhere of the command-line programs that come with OS X, including basic useful stuff like "top" and "machine"? Or is it Apple's position that if you're not an experienced 'Unix geek', to whom I guess these tools are second nature, you have no business using the Terminal at all?
Sort of. I've found that the best way to figure out what does what is to type in man name of command and read the man (as in manual) page. For example, in post 32255 I quoted a bit from man gcc.
What you might also want to do is show "invisible" files in the Finder* and rummage around in those Unixy-named folders on your startup disk to see what commands are available. For a fair example, go into the Finder, type ⌘G, enter /usr/bin in the Go-To input box, and look through all the files listed. When you find something that catches your eye, open up Terminal, type man , drag the file in question onto the Terminal window, and hit return (that'll bring up the man page). If you're still feeling daring, try the command out.
The worst that can happen is that you have to restart.
* IIRC the command you need to run is defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles 1, but if you can use TinkerTool or Cocktail to show hidden files in the Finder (and other goodies as well).
I've found that the best way to figure out what does what is to type in man name of command ...
Right; I know about “man�—even “man man�—it’s just that I have little idea of what programs are available, i.e. what possibilities there are for name of command.
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What you might also want to do is show "invisible" files in the Finder ...
Thanks for the tips.
Back to the topic, I’ve received (or extracted) three WUs that are earmarked for v4.56, but I’m still crunching the last of the v4.39 work from my existing cache. Will report on the results as they come in.
My first result with v4.56 on a G4/733 (PPC7450), OS 10.3.9, BOINC Menubar 5.2.13 is WU Nº8112221; it validated successfully. Agreeing with other postings here, it looks about 20% quicker than v4.39, and the familiar “MacOS Error -43� and “signal 15� don’t appear in the stderr out messages.
It appears that you can use Einstein 4.56 with BOINC 4.43, and don't have to upgrade BOINC to 5.x. Is this correct? The reason I'm asking is because I'm running BOINCManager_4.44SuperBench on Panther, so far the only v 5.x SuperBench available is for Tiger only.
It appears that you can use Einstein 4.56 with BOINC 4.43, and don't have to upgrade BOINC to 5.x. Is this correct? The reason I'm asking is because I'm running BOINCManager_4.44SuperBench on Panther, so far the only v 5.x SuperBench available is for Tiger only.
It appears that you can use Einstein 4.56 with BOINC 4.43, and don't have to upgrade BOINC to 5.x. Is this correct? The reason I'm asking is because I'm running BOINCManager_4.44SuperBench on Panther, so far the only v 5.x SuperBench available is for Tiger only.
From your link, I've replaced my CLI superbench 5.2.13 with 5.4.9 within BOINC Manager of the former version. Both reads their version respectively and they run fine. Are there any implications of such action toward the project....?
RE: That's why I asked
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Thanks. Is there a list anywhere of the command-line programs that come with OS X, including basic useful stuff like "top" and "machine"? Or is it Apple's position that if you're not an experienced 'Unix geek', to whom I guess these tools are second nature, you have no business using the Terminal at all? All I know about them has come from forum participants here and there, usually in a strongly goal-oriented context, with no explanation as to the motivation for using one tool over another or the choice of parameters.
Or am I better off staying away from these things unless I have a specific need? Prior to OS X's Terminal the last command-line I used was in CP/M ...
Yes; I just installed it at home on the weekend and did some browsing. Already that's come in useful at work: we've been upgrading parts of the LAN to 1000-BaseT, and I found out that all a couple of the systems need is better cables, while we'd been planning to buy them new Gigabit Ethernet PCI cards.
Anyway, my G4/733 here, AKA "PowerMac 3,4", runs a PPC 7450; I've installed the Albert v4.56 beta, but I don't expect to have any timings to report for several days. Maybe I'll crank up my E@h resource share to get through the existing cache of v4.39 work quicker.
RE: RE: Which times are
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Thanks for the answer.
Other OS (maybe 10.3.0), slighty higher benchmarks (maybe 400MHz), but only half of memory.
My iMac 350 has 10.3.9 and 640 MB RAM.
The first reference WU with Albert 4.39 is completed, whooping 34,879.04 sec CPU-Time, thats 9h41m, guessed it much longer :).
Interessting, especally compared to the other Powermac2,2.
My PIII 618MHz needs ca. 16h with the standard-app, 4h15m with akosf S41.06.
- are r1_0288.5 on the short side or is it average?
Now I run the follow WU from the same batch with the new beta app, stay tuned. ;)
bdT Atl*
Greetings me again. The WU
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Greetings me again.
The WU with albert_4.56_powerpc-apple-darwin is finished and now pending.
CPU time was 17713.15 sec or 4h55m so its nearly twice as fast as the official app (34879.04 sec CPU-Time, 9h41m) - very nice.
Thanks for all your work.
bdT Atl*
RE: RE: That's why I
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Sort of. I've found that the best way to figure out what does what is to type in man name of command and read the man (as in manual) page. For example, in post 32255 I quoted a bit from man gcc.
What you might also want to do is show "invisible" files in the Finder* and rummage around in those Unixy-named folders on your startup disk to see what commands are available. For a fair example, go into the Finder, type ⌘G, enter /usr/bin in the Go-To input box, and look through all the files listed. When you find something that catches your eye, open up Terminal, type man , drag the file in question onto the Terminal window, and hit return (that'll bring up the man page). If you're still feeling daring, try the command out.
The worst that can happen is that you have to restart.
* IIRC the command you need to run is defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles 1, but if you can use TinkerTool or Cocktail to show hidden files in the Finder (and other goodies as well).
RE: I've found that the
)
Right; I know about “man�—even “man man�—it’s just that I have little idea of what programs are available, i.e. what possibilities there are for name of command.
Thanks for the tips.
Back to the topic, I’ve received (or extracted) three WUs that are earmarked for v4.56, but I’m still crunching the last of the v4.39 work from my existing cache. Will report on the results as they come in.
My first result with v4.56 on
)
My first result with v4.56 on a G4/733 (PPC7450), OS 10.3.9, BOINC Menubar 5.2.13 is WU Nº8112221; it validated successfully. Agreeing with other postings here, it looks about 20% quicker than v4.39, and the familiar “MacOS Error -43� and “signal 15� don’t appear in the stderr out messages.
Two more validated 4.56
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Two more validated 4.56 results: WU Nºs 8112894 and 8140158.
Much the same as the first, except that the message
[pre][CRITICAL]: APP DEBUG: Application caught signal 15.[/pre]
reappeared in the former.
It appears that you can use
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It appears that you can use Einstein 4.56 with BOINC 4.43, and don't have to upgrade BOINC to 5.x. Is this correct? The reason I'm asking is because I'm running BOINCManager_4.44SuperBench on Panther, so far the only v 5.x SuperBench available is for Tiger only.
Thank you.
RE: It appears that you can
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Hi ChillyWilly,
you can find the 5.4.9 SuperBench client for Panther here: 5.4.9 Universal Clients
RE: RE: It appears that
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From your link, I've replaced my CLI superbench 5.2.13 with 5.4.9 within BOINC Manager of the former version. Both reads their version respectively and they run fine. Are there any implications of such action toward the project....?