I'm in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas metro area and yes parts of the state have and will experience rolling black outs due to the EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER.
ERCOT said the supply of natural gas to power plants is being limited and some wind turbines are frozen. So, keeping up with the amount of power being used across Texas is even more difficult.
Texas set a new a new winter record for energy demand Sunday night breaking a record set three years ago.
Texas can't keep the power on? Do we have California again?
I am seeing news stories that the central power grid operator has started requiring power reductions.
Which usually translates into rolling blackouts.
Covers central midwest including nebraska, kansas. I believe that it reaches Oklahoma an texas. Not sure how far east/west it reaches.
Tom M
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Tom M
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I'm in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas metro area and yes parts of the state have and will experience rolling black outs due to the EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER.
ERCOT said the supply of natural gas to power plants is being limited and some wind turbines are frozen. So, keeping up with the amount of power being used across Texas is even more difficult.
Texas set a new a new winter record for energy demand Sunday night breaking a record set three years ago.
I'm in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas metro area and yes parts of the state have and will experience rolling black outs due to the EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER.
ERCOT said the supply of natural gas to power plants is being limited and some wind turbines are frozen. So, keeping up with the amount of power being used across Texas is even more difficult.
Texas set a new a new winter record for energy demand Sunday night breaking a record set three years ago.
MANY years I talked to an oil guy about why they burn the natural gas off at all oil fields and he said 'until it becomes cost effective to capture it, store it, transport it and then sell it it's cheaper to flare it off'. As long as they keep finding oil fields, including sands, natural gas won't be as fully available as it could be.
They don't. The big dog is construction of a gathering network of pipelines. That is in fact done in lots of places. Not worth it for small fields or places with a small fraction of volatiles coming up. In those case flaring is the responsible thing to do. Leakage of methane is much worse.
Drilling of new gas wells was nearly wiped out by the availability of natural gas as a by-product of fracked oil wells. That would not have happened if none of that gas was being collected instead of flared.
An appropriate tax on methane release would be the right way to get standard economic forces to do a proper global optimization avoiding that release where the cost of doing so was less than the harm. A different appropriate tax on carbon release would push the needle farther from flaring and closer to collection.
These are externalities, and the classic remedy is to price them.
But that is classic economic rationality, which is not endorsed by either party in the United States at the current time.
But that is classic economic rationality, which is not endorsed by either party in the United States at the current time.
Politics not rational? Pahsaw..... ;)
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Texas can't keep the power on? Do we have California again?
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Which usually translates into rolling blackouts.
Covers the central midwest including Nebraska, Kansas. I believe that it reaches Oklahoma and a little of Texas? Not sure how far east/west it reaches.
While Texas is on its own power grid manager, I just listened to reports of major generation outages because the generation systems were not sufficiently winter-proofed (more expensive). Which is why Texas is not fairing very well.
And apparently, the Power grid manager for where I am (Kansas) covers 18 states...
And... we started a "rolling blackout" that was supposed to last half-hour to 45 minutes shortly after 7:02 am CST. Two attempts to restart after 9:15 am. Another attempt after 11:15 am.
Finally came on and stayed on about 11:30 am.
The rolling blackout clearly rolled in and failed to roll out :)
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
I'm in Ft. Worth. I lost power for over 30 hours. My house got down to 45 deg F. Couple of the worst days I've spent on Earth. The power is back on now. I felt like I was living in a 3rd world country. Is this the 21st century?
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Gary Charpentier wrote:Texas
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Tom M is not reporting from Texas. Aside from that, I think one of the few things Californians and Texans agree on is that Texas is not California.
I'm in the Dallas Fort Worth
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I'm in the Dallas Fort Worth Texas metro area and yes parts of the state have and will experience rolling black outs due to the EXTREMELY COLD WEATHER.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/rolling-power-outages-ordered-across-texas-as-energy-demand-reaches-record-high
ERCOT said the supply of natural gas to power plants is being limited and some wind turbines are frozen. So, keeping up with the amount of power being used across Texas is even more difficult.
Texas set a new a new winter record for energy demand Sunday night breaking a record set three years ago.
Gary Charpentier
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I am seeing news stories that the central power grid operator has started requiring power reductions.
Which usually translates into rolling blackouts.
Covers central midwest including nebraska, kansas. I believe that it reaches Oklahoma an texas. Not sure how far east/west it reaches.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Change is coming. Change
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Change is coming.
Change is coming.
The #1 ranking on the topic 50 list has changed hands.
:)
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Dr Who Fan wrote: I'm in the
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No natural gas?
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/permian-basin-oil-fields-leak-enough-methane-for-7-million-homes
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/permian-basin-oil-fields-leak-enough-methane-for-7-million-homes
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/12/climate/texas-methane-super-emitters.html
Gary Charpentier wrote: Dr
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MANY years I talked to an oil guy about why they burn the natural gas off at all oil fields and he said 'until it becomes cost effective to capture it, store it, transport it and then sell it it's cheaper to flare it off'. As long as they keep finding oil fields, including sands, natural gas won't be as fully available as it could be.
mikey wrote:they burn the
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They don't. The big dog is construction of a gathering network of pipelines. That is in fact done in lots of places. Not worth it for small fields or places with a small fraction of volatiles coming up. In those case flaring is the responsible thing to do. Leakage of methane is much worse.
Drilling of new gas wells was nearly wiped out by the availability of natural gas as a by-product of fracked oil wells. That would not have happened if none of that gas was being collected instead of flared.
An appropriate tax on methane release would be the right way to get standard economic forces to do a proper global optimization avoiding that release where the cost of doing so was less than the harm. A different appropriate tax on carbon release would push the needle farther from flaring and closer to collection.
These are externalities, and the classic remedy is to price them.
But that is classic economic rationality, which is not endorsed by either party in the United States at the current time.
archae86 wrote:But that is
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Politics not rational? Pahsaw..... ;)
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
Tom M wrote: Gary
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While Texas is on its own power grid manager, I just listened to reports of major generation outages because the generation systems were not sufficiently winter-proofed (more expensive). Which is why Texas is not fairing very well.
And apparently, the Power grid manager for where I am (Kansas) covers 18 states...
And... we started a "rolling blackout" that was supposed to last half-hour to 45 minutes shortly after 7:02 am CST. Two attempts to restart after 9:15 am. Another attempt after 11:15 am.
Finally came on and stayed on about 11:30 am.
The rolling blackout clearly rolled in and failed to roll out :)
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor) I want some more patience. RIGHT NOW!
I'm in Ft. Worth. I lost
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I'm in Ft. Worth. I lost power for over 30 hours. My house got down to 45 deg F. Couple of the worst days I've spent on Earth. The power is back on now. I felt like I was living in a 3rd world country. Is this the 21st century?
Processing work units with "outdated" (according to Microsoft) Ryzen 7 1700