Electric vehicles

Zalster
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Chris S_2

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Unbelievable 

 

Hmm...  Very sad for the lady, as for the man.  I'm sure he was fully aware that a brake was needed but chose his bike without brakes (professional cyclist) for the very reason that he didn't want to deal with the added weight so he could achieve higher speeds.  I have several friends that own these and ride semi professionally. That being said, he should face the consequences of his actions. (much like driving a car without brakes)  Very sad all the way around.....

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So we have an

So we have an electric-vehicle-saves-the-day type of story but sans where-do-the-volts-come-from component. It's no doubt so well known as not to be worth a mention. Silly me. Probably Magic I'd expect. :-)))

Now for closed cycle thinking ie. end to end analysis with full side effects, that's rare I believe. Even with my investigations into home solar power generation I found exclusions in the narratives, as presented, in order to suit the decision to close the deal. Is anyone aware of genuine, impartial attempts to describe solar to vehicle energy flow including all outcomes from manufacturing and post usage discard ?

As for some cyclists running over some pedestrians : it happens all the time in Melbourne. Death is unusual, as is repentance from the particular cyclist. That only reliably arrives when they are identified, caught & subject to criminal trial. Though not unlike any other hit & run with some other transport mode. In this situation mobile phones are so useful. It is characteristically a young bloke in a hurry though. In general that's a dangerous demographic in many scenarios, here illustrated by that specific chap's defense* : it was the burden of others to avert collision with him. But he does have skills though : he seems to be doing a marvellous job of averting the topic of his guilt in causing her death.

I've even heard the excuse that the car wouldn't have hit the tree if it hadn't been planted there ( many decades prior and some 30 metres lateral to the road apron ). Being the only tree in the paddock didn't deter him.

Cheers, Mike.

* I am reminded of a two vehicle accident I witnessed some decades ago. Afterwards I saw the guilty party gesticulating to the policeman, pointing out how hard he tried to stop as indicated by the length of his vehicle's skid marks ! :-))))

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

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I thought he just didn't have

I thought he just didn't have front brakes, but no brakes at all, that is quite dumb.

Mike Hewson
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I'm a big fan of not

I'm a big fan of not normalising idiotic behaviour. One can be sympathetic etc but at least retain a clear understanding of what is/not acceptable. I realise that is an unusual take compared with our post-modern context/content/value-free constructs ie. if 'anything goes' then it will.

Cheers, Mike.

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Chris S
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My father rode a "fixed

My father rode a "fixed wheel" bike to work in the 1950's, before they went out of fashion. And there were also hybrid bikes that you back pedalled to put a rear hub brake on. But every single one had a hand operated front brake. The Tour de France is just about the most professional cycle race in the world on the open roads, you won't see a fixed wheel there at all.

Whether you do in indoor velodrome circuit racing I don't know, but if so I would think those bikes most unsuitable for the public roads.

I've even heard the excuse that the car wouldn't have hit the tree if it hadn't been planted there ( many decades prior and some 30 metres lateral to the road apron ). Being the only tree in the paddock didn't deter him.

One of the classic all time excuses on UK car insurance claim forms is the one that said "By mistake I drove into the wrong house driveway, and collided with a tree that I haven't got".

Mike's final paragraph in post 161238 summed it all up very well I thought. At the end of the day a young woman died though his involvement, whatever the true guilt, yet no sign of any remorse. This story will only fuel the war between cars & pedestrians against cyclists.

Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)

Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now

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Chris S_2 wrote: Mike's

Chris S_2 wrote:

Mike's final paragraph in post 161238 summed it all up very well I thought. At the end of the day a young woman died though his involvement, whatever the true guilt, yet no sign of any remorse. This story will only fuel the war between cars & pedestrians against cyclists.

And perhaps the need to separate them in road designs, one thing I've seen being suggested is red led lights at the edge of the sidewalk where you step into a crosswalk so those looking down might see them and realize where they are going. I mean they KNOW where they are going, into the street, but they have no clue they could be stepping into traffic, the thinking being they might see the red lights in their peripheral vision and stop. I don't know how a Lawyer might handle that though if they step off the curb past the red lights and get hit, that could be a tricky one. On the face of it the pedestrian is wrong, but the car or bicycle just hurt or killed someone. Here in the US a car has the right of way except at intersections and crosswalks if the thing is not controlled by a light. So if you are walking across the middle of the street, and not in a crosswalk, it's the pedestrians own fault if they get hit and the driver is not charged as long as they did nothing out of the ordinary except hit the person. I mean no swerving to hit them etc.

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Good luck Mexico!

Good luck Mexico!

Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)

Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now

Jonathan
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If that is the cause then

If that is the cause then people are not that smart. Driving without any brakes is dangerous, also for any other vehicle.

There will most probably be a multitude of victims due to drunk driving a car then drunk driving a bicycle (also when you correct the numbers for usage of the transportation means). The speed is far lower and so is the chance for an injury to a third party being fatal. I would not expect any fatalities caused when hitting a car for example, the bicycle rider him/her-self has by far the highest chance on getting (seriously) injured.

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Chris S_2 wrote:Good luck

Chris S_2 wrote:
Good luck Mexico!

I hope they got the money up front.  Mexico has a nasty habit of ordering things and not paying for them later.....

Chris S
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Me too!! The contract was

Me too!!

The contract was secured with a 1bn Mexican pesos (£44m) agreement by UK Export Finance, part of the government's Department for International Trade.

Else the government coughs up.

Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)

Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now

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