FINALLY it's nice and Sunny here on the East Coast of North Carolina, after this past weeks rains, almost 30 inches in 24 hours, we are drying out and However the road people have repaired, even if only temporarily, most of the road washouts and buckling so people are starting to get their commutes back to normal again. However the schools are a totally different story, most school systems are on remote learning, just like during Covid times, until at least the end of October because the buses just can't pickup and get the kids to school on time and then at the end of school drop the kids off within an hour of their normal times. Not ALL of the bus routes have problems but it's unfair to have some kids on remote learning and some kids being in class.
When Tom's current rain gets to me it will drop the temps again and some of our highs for the day are predicted to be in the low 70's. WOO HOO!!!
Today will be in the mid 90's F with rain tonight, dropping the temps to the low 70's by tomorrow and through the next week at least. This SHOULD be the last 90+ F temp of the year!
"lts raining. It's pouring. The old man is snoring....".
Around here in NE Kansas, USA.
Well Tom, just one state south of you a couple of days ago, the weather app said there was a line of thunder storms headed right for me. I watched the radar as it got closer and closer, and sure enough, just at the KS/NEOK border, the line of storms divided in two like the Red Sea in front of Moses. I didn't get a drop of rain nor did it cool down significantly.
[...] the line of storms divided in two like the Red Sea in front of Moses. I didn't get a drop of rain nor did it cool down significantly.
We have that here too regularly. My (crude?) theory: the accumulated heat in all the buildings, roads, concrete structures of a city eventually creates a sufficient upwind to make that happen. But then there are also other thunderstorms crossing Berlin without any visible influence of the large built-up area. Hmmmm.
[...] the line of storms divided in two like the Red Sea in front of Moses. I didn't get a drop of rain nor did it cool down significantly.
We have that here too regularly. My (crude?) theory: the accumulated heat in all the buildings, roads, concrete structures of a city eventually creates a sufficient upwind to make that happen. But then there are also other thunderstorms crossing Berlin without any visible influence of the large built-up area. Hmmmm.
My wifes Aunt, who lives in Illinois in among the corn and soybean fields, posted a thing on FaceBook that a acre of corn will give OFF 3000 to 4000 gallons of moisture per day. That means in addition to the upwind there is ALOT of moisture in those clouds which can contribute to the density and intensity of them. Here's a better link than FB:
After a Cleveland lifetime, my parents retired to the mountain country of western North Carolina about 1978--Hendersonville specifically.
I'm absolutely astonished at how much rain Helene dropped in that area. Hendersonville is 235 miles inland from the seacoast, and a hurricane depositing 20 inches of rain there would not have been on my list of concerns.
Edit to add a map image published in the New York Times. The darkest areas got over 10 inches of rain from Helene. Notice how far from the coast most of them are:
After a Cleveland lifetime, my parents retired to the mountain country of western North Carolina about 1978--Hendersonville specifically.
I'm absolutely astonished at how much rain Helene dropped in that area. Hendersonville is 235 miles inland from the seacoast, and a hurricane depositing 20 inches of rain there would not have been on my list of concerns.
Edit to add a map image published in the New York Times. The darkest areas got over 10 inches of rain from Helene. Notice how far from the coast most of them are:
If such rain masses pour down it's dangerous everywhere in mountainous regions. Hopefully your parents are safe and well!
The weather models were accurate and correctly predicted this rapid movement of the hurricane remnants deep into the hinterland; as well as the exceptional rainfall amounts:
e.g.:
US model GFS 0.125°, run: Wed 2024-09-25_18z; accumulated total precipitation until Sun 2029-09-29_11pm; map for North Carolina:
People forget cyclones are large as in hundreds of miles in diameter. As we warm the planet they will get bigger and more frequent. They rain incredibly. They have storm surge like a tsunami. They blow like a tornado.
FINALLY it's nice and Sunny
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FINALLY it's nice and Sunny here on the East Coast of North Carolina, after this past weeks rains, almost 30 inches in 24 hours, we are drying out and However the road people have repaired, even if only temporarily, most of the road washouts and buckling so people are starting to get their commutes back to normal again. However the schools are a totally different story, most school systems are on remote learning, just like during Covid times, until at least the end of October because the buses just can't pickup and get the kids to school on time and then at the end of school drop the kids off within an hour of their normal times. Not ALL of the bus routes have problems but it's unfair to have some kids on remote learning and some kids being in class.
When Tom's current rain gets to me it will drop the temps again and some of our highs for the day are predicted to be in the low 70's. WOO HOO!!!
About five miles to the east
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About five miles to the east of me ice cubes fell from the sky but at my location dry. And then in a couple days more heat.
Today will be in the mid 90's
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Today will be in the mid 90's F with rain tonight, dropping the temps to the low 70's by tomorrow and through the next week at least. This SHOULD be the last 90+ F temp of the year!
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Well Tom, just one state south of you a couple of days ago, the weather app said there was a line of thunder storms headed right for me. I watched the radar as it got closer and closer, and sure enough, just at the KS/NEOK border, the line of storms divided in two like the Red Sea in front of Moses. I didn't get a drop of rain nor did it cool down significantly.
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We have that here too regularly. My (crude?) theory: the accumulated heat in all the buildings, roads, concrete structures of a city eventually creates a sufficient upwind to make that happen. But then there are also other thunderstorms crossing Berlin without any visible influence of the large built-up area. Hmmmm.
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My wifes Aunt, who lives in Illinois in among the corn and soybean fields, posted a thing on FaceBook that a acre of corn will give OFF 3000 to 4000 gallons of moisture per day. That means in addition to the upwind there is ALOT of moisture in those clouds which can contribute to the density and intensity of them. Here's a better link than FB:
https://weather.com/science/weather-explainers/news/2023-07-21-corn-sweat-evapotranspiration-midwest-plains-heat-wave
After a Cleveland lifetime,
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After a Cleveland lifetime, my parents retired to the mountain country of western North Carolina about 1978--Hendersonville specifically.
I'm absolutely astonished at how much rain Helene dropped in that area. Hendersonville is 235 miles inland from the seacoast, and a hurricane depositing 20 inches of rain there would not have been on my list of concerns.
Edit to add a map image published in the New York Times. The darkest areas got over 10 inches of rain from Helene. Notice how far from the coast most of them are:
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I hope your parents are high and dry and safe!!
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If such rain masses pour down it's dangerous everywhere in mountainous regions. Hopefully your parents are safe and well!
The weather models were accurate and correctly predicted this rapid movement of the hurricane remnants deep into the hinterland; as well as the exceptional rainfall amounts:
e.g.:
US model GFS 0.125°, run: Wed 2024-09-25_18z; accumulated total precipitation until Sun 2029-09-29_11pm; map for North Carolina:
https://weather.us/model-charts/gfs-hd/2024092518/north-carolina/acc-total-precipitation/20240930-0400z.html
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I've never seen the NOAA/NHC warning of "Widespread significant river flooding [...] across the southern Appalachians [...] record-breaking."
src: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2024/HELENE.shtml
People forget cyclones are
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People forget cyclones are large as in hundreds of miles in diameter. As we warm the planet they will get bigger and more frequent. They rain incredibly. They have storm surge like a tsunami. They blow like a tornado.