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Tom M
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Peter Hucker of the Scottish

Peter Hucker of the Scottish Boinc Team wrote:

I use the cheap gunk, it lasts way more than 3 years, and nothing overheats.  I will not be conned by this nonsense of adding silver and so forth.  Since the gunk is a fraction of a mm thick, the conductivity of it isn't that important.

I am going to quote some assorted famous scientists here "You are entitled to your own opinion.  You are NOT entitled to your own Facts."

If you investigate your Facts to confirm you really don't over heat when you OC your cpu's then.... but you indicated you are a big fan of "auto" for CPU Boost and for PBO (Amd only).  So I think you would have to try some of the "high priced" premium "gunk" on a previously over-heating/Over clocked CPU before you could be convincing to the rest of us.

The "lapping" that came up earlier is something that is your basic "hot rodding" of the cpu ability to cool (and therefore run faster in OC).   As the manufacturers quality goes up, frequency of the CPU OC gains have gone down for lapping cpus.

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Mr P Hucker
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Tom M wrote: Peter Hucker of

Tom M wrote:

Peter Hucker of the Scottish Boinc Team wrote:

I use the cheap gunk, it lasts way more than 3 years, and nothing overheats.  I will not be conned by this nonsense of adding silver and so forth.  Since the gunk is a fraction of a mm thick, the conductivity of it isn't that important.

I am going to quote some assorted famous scientists here "You are entitled to your own opinion.  You are NOT entitled to your own Facts."

If you investigate your Facts to confirm you really don't over heat when you OC your cpu's then.... but you indicated you are a big fan of "auto" for CPU Boost and for PBO (Amd only).  So I think you would have to try some of the "high priced" premium "gunk" on a previously over-heating/Over clocked CPU before you could be convincing to the rest of us.

The "lapping" that came up earlier is something that is your basic "hot rodding" of the cpu ability to cool (and therefore run faster in OC).   As the manufacturers quality goes up, frequency of the CPU OC gains have gone down for lapping cpus.

Tom M

Are you replying to the right person?  I don't overclock.  It's a crazy idea that causes crashes and corruptions.  The manufacturer knows what speed that chip can do reliably, they are binned according to tests.  We don't know better than them.

When using the correct speed for a chip, they do not overheat with stock coolers and cheap gunk.

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Tom M
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Quote:Peter Hucker of the

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Peter Hucker of the Scottish Boinc Team wrote:

Are you replying to the right person?

I think I am replying to the right person Peter.  I am claiming you don't have a complete set of Facts to defend your opinion.

Your right opinion is something I will uphold.  Your right to "your" Facts I will not.

Tom M

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Quote:Tom M wrote: Peter

Quote:

Tom M wrote:

Peter Hucker of the Scottish Boinc Team wrote:

Are you replying to the right person?

I think I am replying to the right person Peter.  I am claiming you don't have a complete set of Facts to defend your opinion.

Your right opinion is something I will uphold.  Your right to "your" Facts I will not.

Tom M

First hand observation is better than anything else.

And yes you're confused, you said I overclocked.  I don't.

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Be very careful, Peter.  You

Be very careful, Peter.  You have been treacherously close to violating the Moderation rules on several occasions.

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Tom M
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Tom M wrote:Tom M

Tom M wrote:

Anticipation of a review.

I have a used MSI x570 Godlike Motherboard coming in the door (it cost $150).  The previous owner asserts it will post/boot.

Today I cleared the CMOS and the MB booted.

It still shows the over voltage USB errors but they no longer stop the post/booting.

Current testing shows that the #3 from the cpu long slot is probably reacting to the USB issue.  It will only run at X2 with a Rtx 3080 ti plugged in.

I managed to get two gtx 1080's and two Rtx 3080 ti (FE) plugged directly onto the MB.

I am watching how the gpu temperatures rise.

Test bed here.

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Now I have another problem.  Except for the #3 slot running at x2 speeds I now have a 4 slot Pcie 4.0/Gen4, Am4 socket rig.  Should I give into temptation (right after I buy some more name-brand ribbon cables?  :)

Tom M

 

 

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Keith Myers
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What are USB overvoltage

What are USB overvoltage errors?  Never heard of that before.

 

Tom M
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Keith Myers wrote:What are

Keith Myers wrote:

What are USB overvoltage errors?  Never heard of that before.

According to google it means too much power is being drawn through that/those ports. I interpreted that to mean a "short"

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Ian&Steve C.
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that sounds like a

that sounds like a potentially big issue. you mentioned that the board had damaged USB ports. which ports are damaged? are pins touching?

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Keith Myers
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A short on USB pins would be

A short on USB pins would be a short of +5V rail.  Not good. If a port is shorted you should see if the trace to the +5V pin can be cut through if on the surface.

 

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