Would anyone object if I ask a moderator to move this portion of the mb review thread to the conversation about our systems thread that I also have started?
If you wish, please tell me where that is so I can subscribe to it.
Would anyone object if I ask a moderator to move this portion of the mb review thread to the conversation about our systems thread that I also have started?
If you wish, please tell me where that is so I can subscribe to it.
I have a used MSI x570 Godlike Motherboard coming in the door (it cost $150). The previous owner asserts it will post/boot.
I will finally be able to answer the great "how wide is the PCIe slots spacing" question :)
And presumably have a backup for if my EPYC system becomes less epyc.
Got the MB. I have "heel toed" two gtx 1080's across the 4 slots with no trouble. And based on recent experience on my EPYC MB the Rtx 3080ti FE (Founders Edition) will work too.
However, my same EPYC experience shows that even the "thinner" EVGA gpus I have will not fit except in the last slot at the edge of the board.
Claiming "dual slot" GPU apparently is tricky.
Having discovered that the HD died on the previous iteration of my 4 GPU server I will have to retest that MB. If a damaged copy of the OS was loading that could also have caused those crashes.
Tom M
ps. I really did just test positive for Covid19. Worst symptoms were last Saturday. Healing slowly.
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor)
All my EVGA "two slot" gpus have occupied 2 slots. No more. No less. Going back to the GTX 670's and through every generation since.
They fit 4 cards across 4 PCI slots spaced two slots apart. That does mean that the face of one card is opposite the back of the adjacent card. That leaves typically 1/8" to maybe 1/4" of spacing between the cards for airflow input to the fans.
That is why I've always tried to use EVGA hybrid cards with most of the cooling taking place off the card with the attached radiator as my preferred form factor.
But I have used a couple of standard 2 radial fan EVGA 1070 Ti's cards and they work also even with the poor breathing room. They just run in the high 70's instead of the low 70's or high 60's.
The 2080 Ti 3 slot wide cards I bought off Ian was my first deviation from always sticking to two slot wide cards in all the time I have been using gpus.
All my EVGA "two slot" gpus have occupied 2 slots. No more. No less. Going back to the GTX 670's and through every generation since.
They fit 4 cards across 4 PCI slots spaced two slots apart. That does mean that the face of one card is opposite the back of the adjacent card. That leaves typically 1/8" to maybe 1/4" of spacing between the cards for airflow input to the fans.
That is why I've always tried to use EVGA hybrid cards with most of the cooling taking place off the card with the attached radiator as my preferred form factor.
But I have used a couple of standard 2 radial fan EVGA 1070 Ti's cards and they work also even with the poor breathing room. They just run in the high 70's instead of the low 70's or high 60's.
The 2080 Ti 3 slot wide cards I bought off Ian was my first deviation from always sticking to two slot wide cards in all the time I have been using gpus.
You need 1 inch absolute minimum to let air in without resistance. It's so much easier just to space the cards out and use risers. Water cooling costs money, time, and space.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
You need 1 inch absolute minimum to let air in without resistance. It's so much easier just to space the cards out and use risers. Water cooling costs money, time, and space.
Ask Tom what he things about using risers. He has had nothing but constant issues when using risers. He has been most stable when he can support the gpus natively on the motherboard.
I've only tried to use a riser once. Didn't work. Never attempted again as I choose systems that will support at least 3 or 4 cards natively on the motherboard.
EVGA Hybrid cards cost at most $50 more than the equivalent air cooled cards. Not much more expense and absolutely no more time to install or maintain them.
Never, I repeat never, have had any issues doing that.
Ask Tom what he things about using risers. He has had nothing but constant issues when using risers. He has been most stable when he can support the gpus natively on the motherboard.
I've only tried to use a riser once. Didn't work. Never attempted again as I choose systems that will support at least 3 or 4 cards natively on the motherboard.
EVGA Hybrid cards cost at most $50 more than the equivalent air cooled cards. Not much more expense and absolutely no more time to install or maintain them.
Never, I repeat never, have had any issues doing that.
Risers are not a problem. I have everything (8 GPUs) on risers. Makes it very easy to flip a GPU from one machine to another. The only thing that crashes the GPU driver (or Windows 11 entirely) is insufficient power to the GPU. If the GPU power connectors are anything but perfectly shiny, there's a voltage drop and the card screws up. I regularly replace power connectors. Can't find decent ones anywhere, I think they don't exist. Pushing 12.5 amps through 3 flimsy little pins was a very stupid design. On two of my GPUs I gave up and soldered the wires straight to the board.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Peter Hucker wrote: Tom M
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I'm assuming this one. https://einsteinathome.org/content/conversations-about-yourmy-setup
Keith Myers wrote: Peter
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Got it in one. :)
I don't want to lose the conversation. I just don't want it living in the Motherboard Reviews area. Let me see now.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor)
Anticipation of a
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Anticipation of a review.
I have a used MSI x570 Godlike Motherboard coming in the door (it cost $150). The previous owner asserts it will post/boot.
I will finally be able to answer the great "how wide is the PCIe slots spacing" question :)
And presumably have a backup for if my EPYC system becomes less epyc.
Tom M
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor)
Tom M wrote: Anticipation of
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Got the MB. I have "heel toed" two gtx 1080's across the 4 slots with no trouble. And based on recent experience on my EPYC MB the Rtx 3080ti FE (Founders Edition) will work too.
However, my same EPYC experience shows that even the "thinner" EVGA gpus I have will not fit except in the last slot at the edge of the board.
Claiming "dual slot" GPU apparently is tricky.
Having discovered that the HD died on the previous iteration of my 4 GPU server I will have to retest that MB. If a damaged copy of the OS was loading that could also have caused those crashes.
Tom M
ps. I really did just test positive for Covid19. Worst symptoms were last Saturday. Healing slowly.
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association). Be well, do good work, and keep in touch.® (Garrison Keillor)
All my EVGA "two slot" gpus
)
All my EVGA "two slot" gpus have occupied 2 slots. No more. No less. Going back to the GTX 670's and through every generation since.
They fit 4 cards across 4 PCI slots spaced two slots apart. That does mean that the face of one card is opposite the back of the adjacent card. That leaves typically 1/8" to maybe 1/4" of spacing between the cards for airflow input to the fans.
That is why I've always tried to use EVGA hybrid cards with most of the cooling taking place off the card with the attached radiator as my preferred form factor.
But I have used a couple of standard 2 radial fan EVGA 1070 Ti's cards and they work also even with the poor breathing room. They just run in the high 70's instead of the low 70's or high 60's.
The 2080 Ti 3 slot wide cards I bought off Ian was my first deviation from always sticking to two slot wide cards in all the time I have been using gpus.
Tom M wrote:I don't want to
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I don't understand this OCD attitude to having everything precisely on topic. Conversations drift. Let it happen, chill dude, smoke something.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Keith Myers wrote:All my
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You need 1 inch absolute minimum to let air in without resistance. It's so much easier just to space the cards out and use risers. Water cooling costs money, time, and space.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.
Tom M wrote:ps. I really did
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I bet you a grand you don't die of your bad flu.
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Quote:Peter Hucker
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Ask Tom what he things about using risers. He has had nothing but constant issues when using risers. He has been most stable when he can support the gpus natively on the motherboard.
I've only tried to use a riser once. Didn't work. Never attempted again as I choose systems that will support at least 3 or 4 cards natively on the motherboard.
EVGA Hybrid cards cost at most $50 more than the equivalent air cooled cards. Not much more expense and absolutely no more time to install or maintain them.
Never, I repeat never, have had any issues doing that.
Keith Myers wrote: Ask Tom
)
Risers are not a problem. I have everything (8 GPUs) on risers. Makes it very easy to flip a GPU from one machine to another. The only thing that crashes the GPU driver (or Windows 11 entirely) is insufficient power to the GPU. If the GPU power connectors are anything but perfectly shiny, there's a voltage drop and the card screws up. I regularly replace power connectors. Can't find decent ones anywhere, I think they don't exist. Pushing 12.5 amps through 3 flimsy little pins was a very stupid design. On two of my GPUs I gave up and soldered the wires straight to the board.
If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.