My Apologies To The Einstein Crunchers

Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings

Greetings Martin,

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Just under 10 hours and I had 18 SETI WUs completed and reported. No adverse affects noticed. I will now get some more WUs and continue this test. Update to follow, when done with the next batch...

Good luck.

After good confidence with the s@h WUs...

Just for a giggle, try a few e@h WUs to see what happens?...


I really do not feel comfortable in going down that road again! That is what I did when this all got started. It's been over 5 weeks of trying to figure this out. Except for the BIOS update and having the i7 and Core 2 Duo PCs running without the KVM switch, the i7 is where it was at when I had all those WUs error out for MW.

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Happy crunchin',
Martin

ps: Hope you're going to write an executive summary after this little epic!


Well, although I am successfully crunching SETI, I don't believe that whatever the problem was is completely gone. After all, I still have that artifact on the cylon boot splash screen. I'll just bide my time until I can get Win7 Pro 64 bit next year. Then I'll see what happens. Maybe then I'll write that summery. ;)

*** UPDATE ***

I received 19 WUs last night and closed the gate again. This morning, 12 were done with 8 needing to be reported. So far, all is going well BOINCing on the i7 again, with SETI only. After this batch is complete, I will open the WU gate and leave it open to see what happens when the cache level is maintained.

I'm still only running BOINC on 4 cores. I'll jack that up to 6 after about another day of successful crunching.

Keep on BOINCing...! :) (the i7 is again!)

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RE: I'll just bide my time

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I'll just bide my time until I can get Win7 Pro 64 bit next year.

You can have "64-bit Pro" right now with a choice of any of many desktops and thousands of applications... It's just that it isn't called Microsoft. If you're using Thunderbird and Firefox for email and web browsing, then you don't even change applications...

;-)

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Then I'll see what happens. Maybe then I'll write that summery. ;)

Mmmmm... I suspect by that time all will be forgotten and you'll be drooling over the pretty pictures on the retail pack of whatever DVD...?

Computers should just simply work. If your i7 + Windows fails for e@h and/or mw, then something needs debugging and fixing... All still rather curious, especially for your 'cylon' feature during booting up the Windows.

Quite an adventure!

Good luck,

and happy crunchin',
Martin

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RE: Greetings

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Greetings Martin,
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Just under 10 hours and I had 18 SETI WUs completed and reported. No adverse affects noticed. I will now get some more WUs and continue this test. Update to follow, when done with the next batch...

Good luck.

After good confidence with the s@h WUs...

Just for a giggle, try a few e@h WUs to see what happens?...


I really do not feel comfortable in going down that road again! That is what I did when this all got started. It's been over 5 weeks of trying to figure this out. Except for the BIOS update and having the i7 and Core 2 Duo PCs running without the KVM switch, the i7 is where it was at when I had all those WUs error out for MW.

Keep on BOINCing...! :) (the i7 is again!)


Based on my (limited, before Seti ran out of work, which has now been rectified) experience running S@h and E@h together, back and forth, I think you should try it. Maybe set your preferences to limit the number of cores Einstein can use. Pick a time (this weekend?) when you can be there to intervene if you do crash again. Now that Seti's work supply seems to be steady, I'm going to take my Einstein off of NNT the next time I have to go to the basement for some other reason.

David

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Siran d'Vel'nahr
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RE: RE: I'll just bide my

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I'll just bide my time until I can get Win7 Pro 64 bit next year.

You can have "64-bit Pro" right now with a choice of any of many desktops and thousands of applications... It's just that it isn't called Microsoft. If you're using Thunderbird and Firefox for email and web browsing, then you don't even change applications...

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I'm already running a 64 bit OS, on the Core 2 Duo, that did not come from Micro$oft. I keep saying that I run stuff that I have to have Windoze for. And, I don't want to dual boot the i7.

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Then I'll see what happens. Maybe then I'll write that summery. ;)

Mmmmm... I suspect by that time all will be forgotten and you'll be drooling over the pretty pictures on the retail pack of whatever DVD...?

Computers should just simply work. If your i7 + Windows fails for e@h and/or mw, then something needs debugging and fixing... All still rather curious, especially for your 'cylon' feature during booting up the Windows.

Quite an adventure!

Good luck,

and happy crunchin',
Martin

*** UPDATE ***

Well, it's been just over 24 hours since my last re-boot. BOINC has been busy all that time crunching SETI WUs. I am still not seeing any adverse affects of running BOINC. None of the WUs are getting reported with errors. My temps and voltages are all within established parameters.

As for Einstein, to be honest, I would rather be crunching Orbit, but they never have any WUs. And I'm still a bit gun shy when it comes to Einstein. Maybe next year when I do some upgrading.

The one thing I don't miss: the jumping cursor and automatically going back a page or 2, when on a website, without clicking the back button. There's some more good that came out of this... :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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You could load VirtualBox on

You could load VirtualBox on your Linux host and install Windows as a guest OS. I am running SolarisExpress as guest on my Linux host.
Tullio

Siran d'Vel'nahr
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Greetings, *** SEMI-FINAL

Greetings,

*** SEMI-FINAL UPDATE ***

Well, the i7 has been running, with BOINC continuously running, for 54 hours and counting. I have been doing many other tasks as well. I've been doing some major FTP-ing to my web space. I've even been running a highly graphical VR chat program. All, with no apparent adverse affects.

So, unless something really major happens, I more than likely won't post another update until I do some upgrading next year. So, if all goes well, I'd like to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and Happy and prosperous New Year and I'll see you next year. I would also like to thank everyone for the help and many suggestions. And no, I will not attached the i7 to Einstein, not until the upgrade next year. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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RE: Greetings, ***

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Greetings,

*** SEMI-FINAL UPDATE ***

Well, the i7 has been running, with BOINC continuously running, for 54 hours and counting. I have been doing many other tasks as well. I've been doing some major FTP-ing to my web space. I've even been running a highly graphical VR chat program. All, with no apparent adverse affects.

So, unless something really major happens, I more than likely won't post another update until I do some upgrading next year. So, if all goes well, I'd like to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and Happy and prosperous New Year and I'll see you next year. I would also like to thank everyone for the help and many suggestions. And no, I will not attached the i7 to Einstein, not until the upgrade next year. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

It is okay as far as you not crunching for Einstein, the rest of us can pick up the slack! The key is too find a way to crunch and you have done that, CONGRATULATIONS!! I too hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year even if it is not celebrated as a Holiday in your little corner of the World!

David S
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Let me give an update

Let me give an update too.

Last Saturday evening, I installed last week's round of Windows updates and did the required restart. (This is the only interruption to my continuous uptime since I last mantioned it.) Then I opened the BOINC manager and clicked update for Seti, since it had not contacted that project since I increased my cache size to 6 days. Immediately, it went out and got 7 new WUs from Einstein and started working on 2 of them, ignoring the 1 it already had. It never even asked Seti for more work.

I haven't been back down there to check the manager again, but I see on my account page this morning that 3 of the new Einstein WUs have now been returned (but the 1 that's a day older still hasn't). No new ones have been downloaded, so maybe it's now trying to get more work from Seti and can't because Seti is down again. Likewise, I don't know if it ever finished the Astropulse that was at over 98% complete and can't upload it right now.

My point is, my computer has been crunching pretty heavily, maybe exclusively, on Einstein for 3-1/2 days now and hasn't crashed again. So either my crashes were caused by a bad batch of Einstein WUs, changing the CPU usage cutoff from 20% to 40% did the trick, or just having the Seti/AP work sitting there is keeping Einstein under control. Or maybe it is doing a little AP work once in a while and that's keeping Einstein from crashing it. I'll have to go to the basement tomorrow night (laundry), so I'll check then.

David

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Greetings

Greetings all,

N9JFE,

Yes, SETI is down. However, It is a "controlled outage" and is in the middle of three days worth of down time.

I was just on their site and it is being hoped, that it all should be up & running tomorrow or tomorrow night again.

Wishing you continuing scientific "fun" and, at least, always valid results,
Laters,
Rick "WHOSIT" W.

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RE: Greetings

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Greetings all,

N9JFE,

Yes, SETI is down. However, It is a "controlled outage" and is in the middle of three days worth of down time.

I was just on their site and it is being hoped, that it all should be up & running tomorrow or tomorrow night again.

For the first and biggest of the Boinc Projects it sure is down alot lately!

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