Alright, I need big time help with a step by step for DUMMIES style instructions on optimizing 3 machines for einstein. Please give me the BIG TIME 'for dummies' instructions. :-)
I've tried d/l some of this for this AMD but got the wrong one I think. Here are my machines. If I can get this figured out I'll put it on the 3rd machine and run einstein there also.
AuthenticAMD
AMD Athlon(tm) XP Processor 3000+ Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) 5 5 May 2006 10:13:31 UTC
479026 3.94 850.11 GenuineIntel
Intel(r) Celeron(tm) Processor Microsoft Windows Millennium
, (04.90.3000.00)
Also have a 1.7 gig Celeron w/512ram running XP. (this is the 3rd machine)
Thank you in advance. If I can double or triple my crunch time it would be the equivalent of adding 6-12 machines running non optemized Akos apps.
I think you are meaning which of akosf's apps ( versions ) are best for each machine as above? I'm looking here, here and here.
#1 Authentic AMD Athlon XP 3000+ with MS Win XP Home - looks like you have 3DNow and SSE capability thus S41.07 is the go.
#2 Intel(r) Celeron(tm) Processor with MS Windows Millennium - ?
#3 1.7 gig Celeron w/512ram with XP - ?
For the Celeron's I don't think it's clear from your description ( ie. are they 'newer' ? ), so go get CPU-Zhere ( upper left under 'download latest version' : CPU-Z 1.33.1 ). This checks out a system for you to determine what's what. Unzip and run 'cpuz.exe' directly from where-ever you downloaded it too ( you don't need to install ). The first property sheet/tab on the left ( 'CPU' ), in the upper box 'Processor' has 'Instructions' at the lower boundary listing the modes ( on mine MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T ). Note these down for each of your three systems and post back here, please.
Cheers, Mike.
Thanks for trying to help but I'm basically more confused now than I ever was.
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1) Click on the link Mike posted and download the zip file.
2) Stop BOINC
3) Rename the default Einstein program Albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe(usually in C:/Program Files/BOINC/projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu) to something else (say Albert_original.exe)
4) Unzip S41.07 into the Einstein BOINC direct which will give you a new Einstein program Albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe
5) Restart BOINC
That's all you have to do. For your other 2 computers, other optimised clients might be better, so you need to find out (e.g. by using CPU-Z) whether they support 3DNow! (use the D41 optimised app), SSE (use the S41 optimised app), SSE2 (use the U41 optimised app), or none of these (use the C41 optimised app).
The other optimised apps can all be installed the same way as I've outlined above, you just download a different zip file to start with.
For your other 2 computers, other optimised clients might be better, so you need to find out (e.g. by using CPU-Z) whether they support 3DNow! (use the D41 optimised app), SSE (use the S41 optimised app), SSE2 (use the U41 optimised app), or none of these (use the C41 optimised app).
I think the Unn ap requires SSE3. So a cpu capable up to SSE2 maximum I imagine you'd advise to use Snn.
I think I've done it on the Athlon. Now, how do I find out if it's working? Also, I read somewhere I'm not finished and have to d/l Trux's something or other to calibrate my claimed credits. Assuming I've managed to not mangle my entire einstein that will be my next step.
Thank you.
ps I've got 3 of those einstein.x86 files for some reason.
Founder of BOINC group, Objectivists, a group of philosophically minded rational data crunchers.
I think I've done it on the Athlon. Now, how do I find out if it's working?
Well firstly you should notice that a WU takes much less time to complete. Probably around 45 minutes for an XP3000. Secondly when you view your results you can view an individiual result's details. There you can see the stderr out details which should look something like this:
Quote:
5.2.13
2006-05-03 21:53:04.8750 [normal]: Optimised by akosf S41.06 --> 'projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe'.
r2006-05-03 21:53:04.8750 [normal]: Started search at lalDebugLevel = 0
2006-05-03 21:53:05.9843 [normal]: Checkpoint-file 'Fstat.out.ckp' not found.
2006-05-03 21:53:05.9843 [normal]: No usable checkpoint found, starting from beginning.
2006-05-03 21:55:30.0000 [normal]: Fstat file reached MaxFileSizeKB ==> compactifying ... done.
2006-05-03 23:02:50.2343 [normal]: Search finished successfully.
The key bit is the text "Optimised by akosf S41.06" which tells you that you are running an optimised app, and which version (yours would be S41.07).
You only need to download the Trux client if you are bothered by the optimised app claiming too much credit. If BOINC credits are irrelevant to you, then you don't need to do anything more. (Personally I'm in it for the science, not the credits, so I haven't installed the Trux client.)
I neeed the super duper for dummies instructions. This is driving me nuts. been at this all damn day.
Go to the Einstein@Home homepage. On the left side, under returning participants, click Your Account. Scroll down a bit, and click on View, which is next to Results. Find the result closest to the top of the page that says "Success" under Outcome. For that result, go to the far left and click on the link for the result under the column "Result ID."
About halfway down the page, there's a block for "stderr out." This message block will contain the text that J Langley was talking about.
2. Enter BOINC manager and click "Suspend", exit BOINC, right-click the BOINC icon in your system tray (bottom right of screen) and click exit. This is to ensure that any files that will be replaced are not in use.
3. Locate the directory where E@H resides on you computer. By default it shoud be C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\\
4. If you want to create a backup of the file that will be replaced, create a copy of "albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe" and save it on your desktop.
5. Go back to your desktop and open (with winRAR or something similar) "alb_S4107.zip"
6. Click on "Extract", and when it asks for a location enter the path where E@H resides on your computer. (see step 3)
7. When it asks if you would like to replace the existing file click "Yes".
The old science application has now been replaced by the new optimized one. Now it's just a matter of opennig BOINC manager, resuming work, and sitting back to watch your computer fly through WUs. Good Luck, when you get this running post back and we'll try to get BOINC manager optimized (so credit claims don't lower with te new speedy apps).
Dave
There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers. - Richard Feynman
Ok, thanks everyone. I'll start on this new series of advice soon and let you know. I'm either going to stay awake for the next 24 hours installing this thing or the laptop's going to the curb. :-)
Founder of BOINC group, Objectivists, a group of philosophically minded rational data crunchers.
RE: RE: Alright, I need
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Thanks for trying to help but I'm basically more confused now than I ever was.
Founder of BOINC group, Objectivists, a group of philosophically minded rational data crunchers.
For your Athlon, the best
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For your Athlon, the best client is S41.07, so:
1) Click on the link Mike posted and download the zip file.
2) Stop BOINC
3) Rename the default Einstein program Albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe(usually in C:/Program Files/BOINC/projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu) to something else (say Albert_original.exe)
4) Unzip S41.07 into the Einstein BOINC direct which will give you a new Einstein program Albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe
5) Restart BOINC
That's all you have to do. For your other 2 computers, other optimised clients might be better, so you need to find out (e.g. by using CPU-Z) whether they support 3DNow! (use the D41 optimised app), SSE (use the S41 optimised app), SSE2 (use the U41 optimised app), or none of these (use the C41 optimised app).
The other optimised apps can all be installed the same way as I've outlined above, you just download a different zip file to start with.
RE: For your other 2
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I think the Unn ap requires SSE3. So a cpu capable up to SSE2 maximum I imagine you'd advise to use Snn.
I think I've done it on the
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I think I've done it on the Athlon. Now, how do I find out if it's working? Also, I read somewhere I'm not finished and have to d/l Trux's something or other to calibrate my claimed credits. Assuming I've managed to not mangle my entire einstein that will be my next step.
Thank you.
ps I've got 3 of those einstein.x86 files for some reason.
Founder of BOINC group, Objectivists, a group of philosophically minded rational data crunchers.
RE: I think I've done it on
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Well firstly you should notice that a WU takes much less time to complete. Probably around 45 minutes for an XP3000. Secondly when you view your results you can view an individiual result's details. There you can see the stderr out details which should look something like this:
The key bit is the text "Optimised by akosf S41.06" which tells you that you are running an optimised app, and which version (yours would be S41.07).
You only need to download the Trux client if you are bothered by the optimised app claiming too much credit. If BOINC credits are irrelevant to you, then you don't need to do anything more. (Personally I'm in it for the science, not the credits, so I haven't installed the Trux client.)
says i'm running einstein
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says i'm running einstein 4.37.
assuming ur example was from boinc msgs page????
I neeed the super duper for dummies instructions. This is driving me nuts. been at this all damn day.
Founder of BOINC group, Objectivists, a group of philosophically minded rational data crunchers.
RE: says i'm running
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Go to the Einstein@Home homepage. On the left side, under returning participants, click Your Account. Scroll down a bit, and click on View, which is next to Results. Find the result closest to the top of the page that says "Success" under Outcome. For that result, go to the far left and click on the link for the result under the column "Result ID."
About halfway down the page, there's a block for "stderr out." This message block will contain the text that J Langley was talking about.
RE: I think the Unn ap
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Thanks archae - dang typos!
Ok, lets do this for your XP
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Ok, lets do this for your XP 3000+ first.
1. Download the opptimized application to your desktop.
2. Enter BOINC manager and click "Suspend", exit BOINC, right-click the BOINC icon in your system tray (bottom right of screen) and click exit. This is to ensure that any files that will be replaced are not in use.
3. Locate the directory where E@H resides on you computer. By default it shoud be C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\einstein.phys.uwm.edu\\
4. If you want to create a backup of the file that will be replaced, create a copy of "albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe" and save it on your desktop.
5. Go back to your desktop and open (with winRAR or something similar) "alb_S4107.zip"
6. Click on "Extract", and when it asks for a location enter the path where E@H resides on your computer. (see step 3)
7. When it asks if you would like to replace the existing file click "Yes".
The old science application has now been replaced by the new optimized one. Now it's just a matter of opennig BOINC manager, resuming work, and sitting back to watch your computer fly through WUs. Good Luck, when you get this running post back and we'll try to get BOINC manager optimized (so credit claims don't lower with te new speedy apps).
Dave
There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers. - Richard Feynman
Ok, thanks everyone. I'll
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Ok, thanks everyone. I'll start on this new series of advice soon and let you know. I'm either going to stay awake for the next 24 hours installing this thing or the laptop's going to the curb. :-)
Founder of BOINC group, Objectivists, a group of philosophically minded rational data crunchers.