Optimized Apps

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Result ID 28065235 Name

Result ID 28065235
Name z1_1133.0__455_S4R2a_2
Workunit 7850662
Created 5 May 2006 1:28:14 UTC
Sent 5 May 2006 10:13:31 UTC
Received 5 May 2006 20:09:52 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Downloaded
Exit status -185 (0xffffff47)
Computer ID 388506
Report deadline 19 May 2006 10:13:31 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out 5.2.13
One or more missing files


Validate state Invalid

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Steve Cressman
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Step 3 and 4 are not needed.

Step 3 and 4 are not needed. But if you want to save the origanal file just change the extension to .old and leave it in the folder.

98SE XP2500+ @ 2.1 GHz Boinc v5.8.8

Dave Burbank
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You'll get it, just take your

You'll get it, just take your time and think things through logically.

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Dave Burbank
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RE: > One or more missing

Message 27768 in response to message 27765

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One or more missing files


Validate state Invalid

I'm not to sure which file(s) would be missing. If you go to the directory where you extracted "albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe" what files are there?

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AndyK
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RE: ... You only need to

Message 27770 in response to message 27759

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You only need to download the Trux client if you are bothered by the optimised app claiming too much credit. If BOINC credits are irrelevant to you, then you don't need to do anything more. (Personally I'm in it for the science, not the credits, so I haven't installed the Trux client.)

Yeah, thanks to you and others like you the quorum of many results is much lower than it should be!
The optimized app in conjunction with the standard boinc core client claimes way too low credit!
If a users pc claimes a fair amount of 30 to 40 credits (EaH) and gets two guys like you, he gets 5 to 15 credits. Wonderful! :-|

btw: I'm using S41.07 (AMD boxes) and U41.07 (Intel box) with trux calibrating core clients...

AndyK

Want to know your pending credit?

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Terry
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RE: Yeah, thanks to you

Message 27771 in response to message 27770

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Yeah, thanks to you and others like you the quorum of many results is much lower than it should be!
The optimized app in conjunction with the standard boinc core client claimes way too low credit!
If a users pc claimes a fair amount of 30 to 40 credits (EaH) and gets two guys like you, he gets 5 to 15 credits. Wonderful! :-|

btw: I'm using S41.07 (AMD boxes) and U41.07 (Intel box) with trux calibrating core clients...

AndyK

Amen!

J Langley
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RE: If a users pc claimes a

Message 27772 in response to message 27770

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If a users pc claimes a fair amount of 30 to 40 credits (EaH) and gets two guys like you, he gets 5 to 15 credits. Wonderful! :-|

btw: I'm using S41.07 (AMD boxes) and U41.07 (Intel box) with trux calibrating core clients...

AndyK

You're right, I expressed myself badly. I should have said that the optimised apps get awarded too much credit, not that they claim too much credit.

I assume that non-optimised users don't care about credits either. If they did, then I think they would probably be amongst the first to download the new optimised clients as they become available.
I also think that anyone who didn't know about the optimised apps and who cares about credits would notice that they regularly got awarded a lot less than they claimed, then check the other machines in the quorum and realise that there are optimised apps available, then switch to them.

For those who do care about measuring their contribution, BOINC credits are badly flawed anyway. It's unfortunate there isn't a better alternative.

AndyK
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RE: RE: If a users pc

Message 27773 in response to message 27772

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Quote:

If a users pc claimes a fair amount of 30 to 40 credits (EaH) and gets two guys like you, he gets 5 to 15 credits. Wonderful! :-|

btw: I'm using S41.07 (AMD boxes) and U41.07 (Intel box) with trux calibrating core clients...

AndyK

You're right, I expressed myself badly. I should have said that the optimised apps get awarded too much credit, not that they claim too much credit.

...

For those who do care about measuring their contribution, BOINC credits are badly flawed anyway. It's unfortunate there isn't a better alternative.

Well, I'm in four projects for the science. I don't attach to every new project whenever one comes to town.
But I like stats and the racing and therefor I do care about credits.
Everytime I see a granted result at less than 25 credits (EaH) I swear at those other two not using an...err... THE appropriate boinc core client.

AndyK

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Brian
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RE: I should have said that

Message 27774 in response to message 27772

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I should have said that the optimised apps get awarded too much credit

Maybe I'm missing something, but the idea of credit was originally intended to be based on the amount of processing done, not the time it takes to do the processing.

If everything was balanced properly, I'd imagine all apps (optimized or not) would be claiming 30-40 credits for a "normal" WU regardless of whether or not it took 5 minutes or 5 hours to finish.

J Langley
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RE: Everytime I see a

Message 27775 in response to message 27773

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Everytime I see a granted result at less than 25 credits (EaH) I swear at those other two not using an...err... THE appropriate boinc core client.

AndyK

Everytime I see a result from a non-optimised Windows machine I'm disappointed in the amount of electricity being wasted. Apart from 'anomalous' credit claims such as mine, there is nothing outside the forums to alert a casual cruncher that optimised apps are available.

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