New apps for S5R6?

Svenie25
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Hi.

In this minutes I got a new application for S5R6 (for SSE2). What´s new with this app?

MfG
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Richard Haselgrove
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New apps for S5R6?

Where are you seeing this? The applications page shows nothing new since 12 October 2009.

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12.01.2010

12.01.2010 15:47:09 Einstein@Home Started download of einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86__S5R6sse2.exe

And in the taskstab of BOINC the app has the tag "(S5R6sse2)"

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RE: 12.01.2010

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12.01.2010 15:47:09 Einstein@Home Started download of einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86__S5R6sse2.exe

And in the taskstab of BOINC the app has the tag "(S5R6sse2)"

I see the same thing. Wonder why "sse2" since my computer is capable of sse4.1???

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The old 'switcher' mechanism

The old 'switcher' mechanism (a program that determined the CPU capabilities and chose an application binary out of three to execute) on Windows has been replaced by the plan class mechanism (the client reports the CPU features and the scheduler decides which App to send). The main reason is that the switcher app caused problems for an increasing number of people that use Windows 7.

einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86__S5R6sse2.exe is identical to einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe of the old app bundle.

BM

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RE: The old 'switcher'

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The old 'switcher' mechanism (a program that determined the CPU capabilities and chose an application binary out of three to execute) on Windows has been replaced by the plan class mechanism (the client reports the CPU features and the scheduler decides which App to send). The main reason is that the switcher app caused problems for an increasing number of people that use Windows 7.

einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86__S5R6sse2.exe is identical to einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe of the old app bundle.

BM

Bernd,

why does it state "sse2" even though CPUZ reports my processors are "sse4.1"?

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RE: why does it state

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why does it state "sse2" even though CPUZ reports my processors are "sse4.1"?

There are only different apps and plan classes for SSE and SSE2. What you see there is the name of the plan class, not that of your CPU capabilities.

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Richard Haselgrove
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Ooooh, I've got one

Ooooh, I've got one too.

You can see the change in client_state.xml: it's gone from

    einstein_S5R6
    301
    windows_intelx86
    1.000000
    1.000000
    2644463532.873237
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86.exe
        
    
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_0.exe
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_0.exe
    
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_1.exe
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_1.exe
    
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe
    
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
        graphics_app
    


to

    einstein_S5R6
    301
    windows_intelx86
    1.000000
    1.000000
    4231141652.597179
    S5R6sse2
    6.7.4
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_windows_intelx86__S5R6sse2.exe
        
    
    
        einstein_S5R6_3.01_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
        graphics_app
    


One very beneficial side-effect will be substantially reduced downloads (over 20MB saved) for new users/hosts.

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RE: One very beneficial

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One very beneficial side-effect will be substantially reduced downloads (over 20MB saved) for new users/hosts.

A much more modest benefit to folks who watch their task lists using something such as Process Explorer will be the end of the excess ap per core running Einstein that was just the switcher. I'll appreciate that.

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Does that imply that Windows

Does that imply that Windows 7 ( ie. the API ) wasn't reporting the CPU capabilities sufficiently well enough for the needs of the switcher ?

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

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RE: Does that imply that

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Does that imply that Windows 7 ( ie. the API ) wasn't reporting the CPU capabilities sufficiently well enough for the needs of the switcher ?

Cheers, Mike.


Did the switcher rely on external tools/reports to identify the CPU, or did it test CPUID directly itself?

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