This just proves that some person may get the credit for an invention but that invention has to be the culmination of much laid ground work by other people. How could you "invent" a light bulb without first discovering and harnessing electricity, or without being able to make glass or vacuum equipment, etc. There are usually many people working on the same idea simultaneously but too often only one gets credit and the associated historical fame.
An inverse of that may be the future sign of the times.
Back on topic:
As a Vista, XP and Linux user I recall a few years ago when people were hollering about XP and the transition from 98SE (My therapist says I'm not ready to 'revisit' issues concerning Millennium Edition quite yet, maybe in a few more years). "XP is buggy!" "XP has more security holes than swiss cheese!" "XP boots and runs slower on older PCs, requires faster CPUs and more RAM and HDD space than 98" "XP EULA!" Sounds kind of familiar...
...some of that and what's now with Vista has a lot to do with perceptions IMO. The beginning article states "The company's recent introduction of Windows 7—Vista's successor after only two years—indicates that even Microsoft views Vista with disappointment, according to the awards organizers." I think that is kind of a lack of hindsight. Windows versions was pretty much updated quite frequently in the past (1-3 years) while XP was up for somewhere around 5 before Vista (rough estimates here of course plus there was the XP Media Center Editions of '03 and '05 but the fundamental OS was still quite the same, I believe.) From what I understand, one of the main reasons for the quick release and the slimmed down size of Win7 is to minimize netbook market share loss to Linux. http://www.liliputing.com/2009/01/netbooks-partially-to-blame-for-microsoft-layoffs.html After all these years of bloat, MS had to reconsider the future seemingly.
As a Vista, XP and Linux user I recall a few years ago when people were hollering about XP and the transition from 98SE (My therapist says I'm not ready to 'revisit' issues concerning Millennium Edition quite yet, maybe in a few more years). "XP is buggy!" "XP has more security holes than swiss cheese!" "XP boots and runs slower on older PCs, requires faster CPUs and more RAM and HDD space than 98" "XP EULA!" Sounds kind of familiar...
Since I got certified as a Microsoft Systems Engineer, I get invited to any Microsoft soirees that come to Jacksonville, which is just 50 miles south of me.
Just before Vista was to be released, a Microsoft "evangelist" came and did a presentation on Vista's new features. Before he got to that part though, he made a public apology for Windows ME.
I've also heard Windows ME referred to as "Windows Migraine Edition".
Vista's initial adoption problems were much like those found with XP back in 2001, with one addition. Nvidia failed to deliver proper stable drivers for Vista for several months after its release.
Nvidia's driver related crashes are more than those of ATI and Intel combined, and yet Nvidia's market share doesn't account for this in any way. It's one of the sad problems that Microsoft faces (that Linux devs and Apple don't) - having to deal with third parties for driver compatibility. Add poor BIOS support from OEMs and the vast amounts of crap that come pre-installed on most systems today - no wonder most people are going to be upset.
@Mary - when it comes to that laptop you've got, make sure you've got 2GB of RAM, and then format it. Plain and simple. Backup all important data on there and reinstall Vista from scratch. I can guarantee you that it will be far quicker and more stable than it was when you first purchased it.
Heck... the Dell Studio laptops are plagued with bugchecks from the base install. I honestly don't know how you can screw up your factory install images, since WAIK makes life incredibly simple for system deployment.
Vista's initial adoption problems were much like those found with XP back in 2001, with one addition. Nvidia failed to deliver proper stable drivers for Vista for several months after its release.
Nvidia's driver related crashes are more than those of ATI and Intel combined, and yet Nvidia's market share doesn't account for this in any way. It's one of the sad problems that Microsoft faces (that Linux devs and Apple don't) - having to deal with third parties for driver compatibility. Add poor BIOS support from OEMs and the vast amounts of crap that come pre-installed on most systems today - no wonder most people are going to be upset.
It didn't help either that every system on the Planet was 'certified' Vista ready!!! MS just blew it with Vista, they thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and it obviously wasn't/isn't! Now it IS much better today than when it was first released!! But for someone of MS's stature to say they spent 5 years developing Vista and then to turn out crap like that, you have to lose some respect for MS!
I have been running Windows7, I downloaded it from MS and it is NICE! Smooth, easily installed on my AMD quad core, only problem is no built in mail program and some other very minor issues. Now MS wants us to all go to 'live' or on-line mail and everything else, so maybe it is by design. I did download the Essentials, separate download, for Windows7 and it helped some.
@Mary - when it comes to that laptop you've got, make sure you've got 2GB of RAM, and then format it. Plain and simple. Backup all important data on there and reinstall Vista from scratch. I can guarantee you that it will be far quicker and more stable than it was when you first purchased it.
Heck... the Dell Studio laptops are plagued with bugchecks from the base install. I honestly don't know how you can screw up your factory install images, since WAIK makes life incredibly simple for system deployment.
It's my sister's laptop, not mine, so it is a thousand miles away at the moment. It also happens to be a Toshiba, not a Dell. However, it came with 2GB of RAM and was formated when my dad put Vista back on. Not only does it still have the original problems with Vista, but now it occasionally "loses" drivers for the wireless card. There was no speed or stability benefit. This isn't as bad as the laptops belonging to some of my friends that tend to "lose" Nvidia drivers or crash their Nvidia cards altogether, but it is still a pain.
~It only takes one bottle cap moving at 23,000 mph to ruin your whole day~
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Actually, that isn't completely true, either.
History of the Light Bulb
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This just proves that some person may get the credit for an invention but that invention has to be the culmination of much laid ground work by other people. How could you "invent" a light bulb without first discovering and harnessing electricity, or without being able to make glass or vacuum equipment, etc. There are usually many people working on the same idea simultaneously but too often only one gets credit and the associated historical fame.
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It always happens, e.g. Obama was speaking of the car being invented in the USA, surprising a lot of Germans ;-)
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Yeah, I caught that, too.
But, that shouldn't be surprising. During the campaign, he made mention of how he had visited 57 states, with two more to go.
Annex Canada and Mexico ...
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Annex Canada and Mexico ...
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An inverse of that may be the future sign of the times.
Back on topic:
As a Vista, XP and Linux user I recall a few years ago when people were hollering about XP and the transition from 98SE (My therapist says I'm not ready to 'revisit' issues concerning Millennium Edition quite yet, maybe in a few more years). "XP is buggy!" "XP has more security holes than swiss cheese!" "XP boots and runs slower on older PCs, requires faster CPUs and more RAM and HDD space than 98" "XP EULA!" Sounds kind of familiar...
...some of that and what's now with Vista has a lot to do with perceptions IMO. The beginning article states "The company's recent introduction of Windows 7—Vista's successor after only two years—indicates that even Microsoft views Vista with disappointment, according to the awards organizers." I think that is kind of a lack of hindsight. Windows versions was pretty much updated quite frequently in the past (1-3 years) while XP was up for somewhere around 5 before Vista (rough estimates here of course plus there was the XP Media Center Editions of '03 and '05 but the fundamental OS was still quite the same, I believe.) From what I understand, one of the main reasons for the quick release and the slimmed down size of Win7 is to minimize netbook market share loss to Linux. http://www.liliputing.com/2009/01/netbooks-partially-to-blame-for-microsoft-layoffs.html After all these years of bloat, MS had to reconsider the future seemingly.
RE: As a Vista, XP and
)
Since I got certified as a Microsoft Systems Engineer, I get invited to any Microsoft soirees that come to Jacksonville, which is just 50 miles south of me.
Just before Vista was to be released, a Microsoft "evangelist" came and did a presentation on Vista's new features. Before he got to that part though, he made a public apology for Windows ME.
I've also heard Windows ME referred to as "Windows Migraine Edition".
Vista's initial adoption
)
Vista's initial adoption problems were much like those found with XP back in 2001, with one addition. Nvidia failed to deliver proper stable drivers for Vista for several months after its release.
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2008/03/vista-capable-lawsuit-paints-picture-of-buggy-nvidia-drivers.ars
Nvidia's driver related crashes are more than those of ATI and Intel combined, and yet Nvidia's market share doesn't account for this in any way. It's one of the sad problems that Microsoft faces (that Linux devs and Apple don't) - having to deal with third parties for driver compatibility. Add poor BIOS support from OEMs and the vast amounts of crap that come pre-installed on most systems today - no wonder most people are going to be upset.
@Mary - when it comes to that laptop you've got, make sure you've got 2GB of RAM, and then format it. Plain and simple. Backup all important data on there and reinstall Vista from scratch. I can guarantee you that it will be far quicker and more stable than it was when you first purchased it.
Heck... the Dell Studio laptops are plagued with bugchecks from the base install. I honestly don't know how you can screw up your factory install images, since WAIK makes life incredibly simple for system deployment.
RE: Vista's initial
)
It didn't help either that every system on the Planet was 'certified' Vista ready!!! MS just blew it with Vista, they thought it was the best thing since sliced bread and it obviously wasn't/isn't! Now it IS much better today than when it was first released!! But for someone of MS's stature to say they spent 5 years developing Vista and then to turn out crap like that, you have to lose some respect for MS!
I have been running Windows7, I downloaded it from MS and it is NICE! Smooth, easily installed on my AMD quad core, only problem is no built in mail program and some other very minor issues. Now MS wants us to all go to 'live' or on-line mail and everything else, so maybe it is by design. I did download the Essentials, separate download, for Windows7 and it helped some.
RE: @Mary - when it comes
)
It's my sister's laptop, not mine, so it is a thousand miles away at the moment. It also happens to be a Toshiba, not a Dell. However, it came with 2GB of RAM and was formated when my dad put Vista back on. Not only does it still have the original problems with Vista, but now it occasionally "loses" drivers for the wireless card. There was no speed or stability benefit. This isn't as bad as the laptops belonging to some of my friends that tend to "lose" Nvidia drivers or crash their Nvidia cards altogether, but it is still a pain.
~It only takes one bottle cap moving at 23,000 mph to ruin your whole day~