Cold-natured people
30 Sep 2008 19:22:38 UTC
Topic 193959
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I know this is not about Einstein@Home or whatever, but I'm wanting to solicit opinions about whether or not the title of this thread is the right one, or if it should be titled "I am a hot-natured person"...and if what I ask for is "unreasonable"...
Where I work is a relatively old building. It has a Trane heating/cooling system that uses pneumatic controls for the individual floor units with a building-wide "master control". In other words, someone somewhere can turn the system from cooling, to just fan, to heat, and back again whenever they choose.
The room I am in also has a heat pump that is connected to 4 other 12x12 foot offices in addition to the 50x20 foot room that I'm in.
Up until the past 2 mornings, the building-wide system has been blowing cool are continuously, keeping the temperature at my desk a comfortable 70 in the early morning up to 75 in the late afternoon. For the past 2 days however, the building-wide system apparently was just blowing air or heated air during the night and did not switch to cooler air until around 10am yesterday, but thankfully 8:30am this morning.
Yesterday the temperature at my desk got to about 78 degrees. When it was 77 just before 10am, I sent out an email to the people in the room asking that the temperature be brought down to 72 or 73 and made the offer that if people were cold at that temperature, I'd buy them heaters or clothing to help them stay warm.
What happened? The building-wide came on and someone turned on the heat pump, but it never got down below 75, most of the time being around 76-77. Today, fortunately, the building-wide was turned on early. It has held at 75-76 all day.
The layout of the room I'm in has two floor units on each end of the room and one at the door, but with cubicles blocking the airflow on one end and a wall blocking the flow from the other end (there is an archway up some steps, but a solid wall is directly in front of me and 2 cubicles on the other side to get to the other floor unit.
Now for the other fun stuff... Those two floor units are almost never turned on. The only one that remains on constantly is the one near the door, which is about 15-20 feet diagonally from me. Since it blows straight up, the air flows off the ceiling in primarily straight-line patterns, one off to the side and the primary flow straight ahead over the cubicle wall and down into the exact spot where someone sits in the cube across from me. The temperature is 3 degrees less where they sit. That person does not wish to switch because they want their whiteboard, but yet they also don't want the cool air from the only a/c source that at least partially helps me flowing on them too much... ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
As for the heat pump, it has been set to 75, but someone comes in and puts it up to 80 because they are "cold". If it is changed back to 75, eventually someone puts it back up to 80. When the heat pump does run, it does generate a cool breeze while it is running, but it only cuts on maybe 4 or 5 times during the course of a day and only runs for maybe 5 minutes when it is on. If it ran any longer, from what I can tell the people would complain of "freezing".
Meanwhile, I got a LOT of negative vibes from the email yesterday. It appears as though I'm the one with the problem because I like it to be 70-75 while they appear to like it 75-80. Nobody else even has a fan.
I just don't understand how one can be "freezing" at 70-75 with no air movement... Am I totally wrong here????
Cold-natured people
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I am sorry to say that temperatures measured in Fahrenheit are not familiar to me since I am using Centigrades. At 0 C water freezes, at 100 C it boils. My room temperatures varies from 18 C in winter, with heating on, to 30 C in summer, with no air conditioning. !8 C should correspond to about 64 F, 30 C to 86 F. But I may be wrong. Cheers.
Tullio
Using Convert: 70F = 21.1C;
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Using Convert:
70F = 21.1C; 71F = 21.7C; 72F = 22.2C; 73F = 22.8C; 74F = 23.3C; 75 = 23.9C; 76F = 24.4C; 77F = 25C; 78F = 25.5C; 79F = 26.1C; 80F = 26.7C
Greetings! Salve,
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Greetings! Salve, tullio....
Here (in Spain) we were told to adjust air conditioning temperature to 75.2º F which is 24ºC.
Personally I think the room temperature should never be above this level,simply because it is a comfortable temperature. Even a couple of degrees lower would not bother me.
A table of conversion I found---->Apuntes de Silvia
RE: Using Convert: 70F =
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Thanks. Us "yanks" don't use metric. I should've put the converted figures, but I didn't have time. Of course if I don't take time, how can I have time? (ala "The Merovingian" from "Matrix Reloaded")
RE: Greetings! Salve,
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I forgot to mention:
scroll down the page and insert the desired (known) degrees in digits into the proper temperature scale box and click afterwards outside the box somewhere on the page with the mouse.
Yes, the U.S. and most English speaking countries still use the "other" system!
Hope you don´t get in a mess....
RE: Yes, the U.S. and most
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All countries across the globe have officially adopted the metric system except the United States of America, Liberia and Burma (Myanmar).
It is known that people who take blood pressure reducing medication sometimes do feel chills at normal room temperarture and do feel more comfortable at higher levels than people who are not taking the medication
There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot. - Aldo Leopold
RE: RE: Yes, the U.S.
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We probably will eventually, but not until either my generation (Gen X) or Gen Y comes into power. Metric is VERY foreign (pardon the pun) to even the Baby Boomers. I suppose we could do a dual-measurement system, but going to get a "4 liter" of milk just won't sell as nicely as going to get a gallon of milk.
Also, I personally think that if we accept the metric system for measurement, you folks that use a period for the thousand separator can go to the comma... :-)
Yeah, well the problem is I *do* take blood pressure medicine. I think the root of the issue is what is "normal room temperature"? What I did not mention is that I'm perfectly comfy at 64-68 (17.8-20.0). Moving up to the 70-75 range that I first mentioned is already me "compromising" to meet more of what I think probably should be the "normal room temperature" other than my "eternal internal combustion temperature". This probably, ok, definitely, leads to me being cranky when people absolutely refuse to dress warmer than what they do and insist that everyone else suffer from their affliction. This is however the first time that I have been the ONLY person who would like it to be close to the "normal" of 72. Ususally there were one or two extremely cold people. Now I have seven (or more) of them, and I don't know what to do. I can't dress down further. The only option I have short-term is to bring in more fans and hope nobody complains about the noise...
One of the reasons i like
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One of the reasons i like Winter is because the temperature at work must be kept lower to keep the bills down...I like it cold...My ideal indoor temp would be about 65F/18.3C.
RE: One of the reasons i
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Neuro science have proved that the brain works better at about 17°C.
That can be a reason for a company to move forward faster at cost reductions.
I take the dogs walking at a
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I take the dogs walking at a comfortable 14C (57F) in a T-shirt and shorts. This is a comfortable temperature for me.
I put on a cotton vest when the temperature drops to 10C (50F).
At the other end I find things are comfortable up to 25C, and then it gets hot and I get inefficient at work.
PS: I am over 65 years old
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