One of the reasons i like Winter is because the temperature at work must be kept lower to keep the bills down...I like it cold...My ideal indoor temp would be about 65F/18.3C.
Neuro science have proved that the brain works better at about 17°C.
That can be a reason for a company to move forward faster at cost reductions.
The Autumn is my favorite time of the year here on the east coast of Canada. It is warm/cool enough not to require heat or air conditioning. Outdoors... it is comfortable work weather at temps about 15 degrees C/ 60 degrees F
There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot. - Aldo Leopold
One of the reasons i like Winter is because the temperature at work must be kept lower to keep the bills down...I like it cold...My ideal indoor temp would be about 65F/18.3C.
Neuro science have proved that the brain works better at about 17°C.
That can be a reason for a company to move forward faster at cost reductions.
One of the reasons i like Winter is because the temperature at work must be kept lower to keep the bills down...I like it cold...My ideal indoor temp would be about 65F/18.3C.
Neuro science have proved that the brain works better at about 17°C.
That can be a reason for a company to move forward faster at cost reductions.
I can believe that...It feels that way to me.
The quantity of blood flow to the head is largely independent of a wide range of environmental conditions ( yes, there are exceptions like a loop the loop in an aeroplane ). Which is a good thing for brain nutrition. The are very active mechanisms to ensure this. But specifically this means that blood flow to the head is NOT part of temperature regulation feedback loops that apply elsewhere. Hence the blood gets supplied to there at whatever temperature it is provided at from the body core.
Now the general body surface temperature is another issue again. This is clearly more directly related to the room that you are sitting in and has, via variable subcutaneous flow, a relationship to core heat. Un-assisted, body tissue has heat transmission properties similiar to cork wood ie. slow. Rapid heat exchange is thus via bulk movement of blood - 'convection' if you like - determined by opening or shutting of valvular points in the smaller artery types. ( Hence the variation in surface color due to the amount of blood flow in that immediately sub-dermal bed of vessels ).
The upshot is that the brain is kept cool by the body keeping cool which in turn depends on energy production and regulatory flows. Mind you there is some assistance from the cold-compress to the nape of the neck as the vertebral arteries can be cooled a bit that way ( carotids x2 at the front, vertebrals x2 at the back ). You generally don't put anything on the front of the neck, all though that would work for heat exchange, because of a blizzard of triggering of reflexes with regard to airways and blood pressure ( most conscious people will feel quite uncomfortable and object ).
Having said all of that there is acclimation, a longer term prospect. I suspect what Brian is referring to at work is probably related to that. There is good evidence to suggest that the environment when you were young is probably the big determinant here for adult life. This is true for many of this type of characteristic - we lose or degrade malleability with age! Modern travel speeds ( ie. around the world in 24 hours now vs. years in the olden days ) have probably pre-empted much of this. Jet lag is probably a lot more than the obvious stuff.
Cheers, Mike.
( edit ) I should point out that I have mentioned two separate effect types here. The first is the short term regulation based upon some settings of an otherwise unwavering mechanism. The second is the longer term alteration of the mechanism itself. In feedback technology terms : the first is a response from a stimulus using constant gains, the second is a variation in the actual gain values. ( and I've ignored sweating, which is actually a lot more complicated than you'd think! )
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Yes, the U.S. and most English speaking countries still use the "other" system!
Hope you don´t get in a mess....
All countries across the globe have officially adopted the metric system except the United States of America, Liberia and Burma (Myanmar).
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I just don't understand how one can be "freezing" at 70-75 with no air movement... Am I totally wrong here????
It is known that people who take blood pressure reducing medication sometimes do feel chills at normal room temperarture and do feel more comfortable at higher levels than people who are not taking the medication
What about the UK? And what about all those who belong to the Commonwealth Organization? Australia? What about Gibraltar?!?!
Coming back on topic, the average temperature of planet Earth is about 21º C and that´s a very nice temperature for almost everything!
To argue which language is best for Science is just a good stuff for another thread.....
As russians say: I wish you siberian health!
Note: I use English for best understanding here and now!!!
I'm happiest between 68-72F, less than that I feel cold, more than that its too hot. I have a very narrow comfort range.
Well, I'm about to head into the "sauna". I couldn't get up early enough today to be able to get in there before everyone else so that I could turn the heat pump on and get it reasonable. The problem is that the lone floor unit running is only capable of maintaining about 76 out in my area some 15-20 feet away from it... I'm totally dependent upon that system being on cooling. If it is only blowing air, then my area has gotten up to about 78 and I don't doubt that it would go to 80.
I bought a 14 inch floor fan last night. I'm leaving it in the car until I survey the situation. If it's like I'm expecting, I'll go back and get it, because the other people appear to not want to have it just 2 or 3 degrees cooler...which would put it in the upper end of my comfort zone and enable me to stay focused on work...
Like "The Oracle" said in "Matrix Reloaded", "It is a pickle. No doubt about it." I need the job, but in order to keep the job, I need to be able to concentrate and focus. At the current high temperatures, I can't concentrate and focus on what I need to get done. Fans are only going to go so far, in that they will eventually be moving too much air around (papers going everywhere) or will be deemed "too loud".
Hopefully the others at your office will not notice that the temperature is a normal level...and thus won't complain.
Some people decide to change their way of dressing/clothing, for instance, instead of wearing a tie, you just take it off, instead of wearing a jacket/suit you just wear a t-shirt, you know what I mean...
Must say I sympathize with you, Brian, I also prefer it cooler, about 20C/68F. Which actually goes against Mike's piece, most of my first 15 years on this planet were in Africa, mainly Sudan (middle of Shara desert) and Eritrea. And since then spent another 12 years in Cyprus and Italy.
I googled max office temps and only Canada has any Thermal Comfort for Office Work recommendations. There it says 21-23°C (69-73°F). Virtually everything else that studied problem quotes 20-24C (68-75F). UK only has min temp regulation which is 16C (61F), 13C is work is physical.
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The Autumn is my favorite time of the year here on the east coast of Canada. It is warm/cool enough not to require heat or air conditioning. Outdoors... it is comfortable work weather at temps about 15 degrees C/ 60 degrees F
There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot. - Aldo Leopold
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I can believe that...It feels that way to me.
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The quantity of blood flow to the head is largely independent of a wide range of environmental conditions ( yes, there are exceptions like a loop the loop in an aeroplane ). Which is a good thing for brain nutrition. The are very active mechanisms to ensure this. But specifically this means that blood flow to the head is NOT part of temperature regulation feedback loops that apply elsewhere. Hence the blood gets supplied to there at whatever temperature it is provided at from the body core.
Now the general body surface temperature is another issue again. This is clearly more directly related to the room that you are sitting in and has, via variable subcutaneous flow, a relationship to core heat. Un-assisted, body tissue has heat transmission properties similiar to cork wood ie. slow. Rapid heat exchange is thus via bulk movement of blood - 'convection' if you like - determined by opening or shutting of valvular points in the smaller artery types. ( Hence the variation in surface color due to the amount of blood flow in that immediately sub-dermal bed of vessels ).
The upshot is that the brain is kept cool by the body keeping cool which in turn depends on energy production and regulatory flows. Mind you there is some assistance from the cold-compress to the nape of the neck as the vertebral arteries can be cooled a bit that way ( carotids x2 at the front, vertebrals x2 at the back ). You generally don't put anything on the front of the neck, all though that would work for heat exchange, because of a blizzard of triggering of reflexes with regard to airways and blood pressure ( most conscious people will feel quite uncomfortable and object ).
Having said all of that there is acclimation, a longer term prospect. I suspect what Brian is referring to at work is probably related to that. There is good evidence to suggest that the environment when you were young is probably the big determinant here for adult life. This is true for many of this type of characteristic - we lose or degrade malleability with age! Modern travel speeds ( ie. around the world in 24 hours now vs. years in the olden days ) have probably pre-empted much of this. Jet lag is probably a lot more than the obvious stuff.
Cheers, Mike.
( edit ) I should point out that I have mentioned two separate effect types here. The first is the short term regulation based upon some settings of an otherwise unwavering mechanism. The second is the longer term alteration of the mechanism itself. In feedback technology terms : the first is a response from a stimulus using constant gains, the second is a variation in the actual gain values. ( and I've ignored sweating, which is actually a lot more complicated than you'd think! )
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
I'm happiest between 68-72F,
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I'm happiest between 68-72F, less than that I feel cold, more than that its too hot. I have a very narrow comfort range.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
RE: RE: Yes, the U.S.
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What about the UK? And what about all those who belong to the Commonwealth Organization? Australia? What about Gibraltar?!?!
Coming back on topic, the average temperature of planet Earth is about 21º C and that´s a very nice temperature for almost everything!
To argue which language is best for Science is just a good stuff for another thread.....
As russians say: I wish you siberian health!
Note: I use English for best understanding here and now!!!
RE: I'm happiest between
)
Well, I'm about to head into the "sauna". I couldn't get up early enough today to be able to get in there before everyone else so that I could turn the heat pump on and get it reasonable. The problem is that the lone floor unit running is only capable of maintaining about 76 out in my area some 15-20 feet away from it... I'm totally dependent upon that system being on cooling. If it is only blowing air, then my area has gotten up to about 78 and I don't doubt that it would go to 80.
I bought a 14 inch floor fan last night. I'm leaving it in the car until I survey the situation. If it's like I'm expecting, I'll go back and get it, because the other people appear to not want to have it just 2 or 3 degrees cooler...which would put it in the upper end of my comfort zone and enable me to stay focused on work...
Like "The Oracle" said in "Matrix Reloaded", "It is a pickle. No doubt about it." I need the job, but in order to keep the job, I need to be able to concentrate and focus. At the current high temperatures, I can't concentrate and focus on what I need to get done. Fans are only going to go so far, in that they will eventually be moving too much air around (papers going everywhere) or will be deemed "too loud".
Amazingly enough, 71 today...
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Amazingly enough, 71 today... Go figure...
RE: Amazingly enough, 71
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Hopefully the others at your office will not notice that the temperature is a normal level...and thus won't complain.
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Some people decide to change their way of dressing/clothing, for instance, instead of wearing a tie, you just take it off, instead of wearing a jacket/suit you just wear a t-shirt, you know what I mean...
Must say I sympathize with
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Must say I sympathize with you, Brian, I also prefer it cooler, about 20C/68F. Which actually goes against Mike's piece, most of my first 15 years on this planet were in Africa, mainly Sudan (middle of Shara desert) and Eritrea. And since then spent another 12 years in Cyprus and Italy.
I googled max office temps and only Canada has any Thermal Comfort for Office Work recommendations. There it says 21-23°C (69-73°F). Virtually everything else that studied problem quotes 20-24C (68-75F). UK only has min temp regulation which is 16C (61F), 13C is work is physical.