S5R2

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RE: RE: RE: I've

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I've finished the first two S5R2 units and am half way through the third without any trouble so far. I'm running an old AMD 850 and taking about 50 hours per unit time. Is it just the newer machines that are overclocked that are having trouble?

(edit) is running multiple projects not helping, I run Einstein only.

I know... that`s why i`m running E@H exclusively, right now. I dont have any problems with errors, but the fact, that i hit the same time to complete an s5r2 WU as AMD 850? I got twice the juice in my barton (1.88ghz).

Could you pls give me a link for those workunits of yours? How many credits did you got for them?

Two are pending though, and you got twice the credit for the same time!

http://einsteinathome.org/host/915710/tasks

I've got an antique 600 Athlon and from doing a few rough calculations, the R2s do take a little longer to run, but it's only on the order of 5% or so. So IF there is a difference is MUCH smaller than with the faster CPUs. This also held true with Athlon XPs ranging from 1.1 to 1.6. Without a doubt slower, but no where near the magnitude of an Athlon 64 XP 3400 which probably averaged between 25 and 35% slower.

Gary

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RE: I've got an antique

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I've got an antique 600 Athlon and from doing a few rough calculations, the R2s do take a little longer to run, but it's only on the order of 5% or so. So IF there is a difference is MUCH smaller than with the faster CPUs. This also held true with Athlon XPs ranging from 1.1 to 1.6. Without a doubt slower, but no where near the magnitude of an Athlon 64 XP 3400 which probably averaged between 25 and 35% slower.

Gary

My brand-spankin new Athlon 64 X2 4600 has taken approximately a 40% hit S5R2 vs S5RI WUs. Funny thing is, my XP 1700 is showing an improvement with S5r2 (about 1-2 cr/hr each WU).

Seti Classic Final Total: 11446 WU.

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My AMD Barton 1.8Ghz got hit

My AMD Barton 1.8Ghz got hit for about 44% from average 14.6 to 8.05 cr/h.

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RE: Funny thing is, my XP

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Funny thing is, my XP 1700 is showing an improvement with S5r2 (about 1-2 cr/hr each WU).


It's not so funny. It means that the S5R1 code didn't use the SSE engine on your CPU.

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RE: RE: I've got an

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I've got an antique 600 Athlon and from doing a few rough calculations, the R2s do take a little longer to run, but it's only on the order of 5% or so. So IF there is a difference is MUCH smaller than with the faster CPUs. This also held true with Athlon XPs ranging from 1.1 to 1.6. Without a doubt slower, but no where near the magnitude of an Athlon 64 XP 3400 which probably averaged between 25 and 35% slower.

Gary

My brand-spankin new Athlon 64 X2 4600 has taken approximately a 40% hit S5R2 vs S5RI WUs. Funny thing is, my XP 1700 is showing an improvement with S5r2 (about 1-2 cr/hr each WU).

Well, that seems to confirm it. The older AMD processors are not suffering such a performance hit on S5R2 units as the newer ones are. Is this just happening to AMD kit or is it the same for Intel as well?

Odd really, one would have thought just the opposite. The extra instruction sets in modern processors ought to be able to cope better. OK, S5R1 was optimised, but anyone any ideas as to why we are seeing this on S5R2?

[edit] S5R2 using SSE, S5R1 wasn't, as per Akosf's post?

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RE: RE: My brand-spankin

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My brand-spankin new Athlon 64 X2 4600 has taken approximately a 40% hit S5R2 vs S5RI WUs. Funny thing is, my XP 1700 is showing an improvement with S5r2 (about 1-2 cr/hr each WU).

Well, that seems to confirm it. The older AMD processors are not suffering such a performance hit on S5R2 units as the newer ones are. Is this just happening to AMD kit or is it the same for Intel as well?

Odd really, one would have thought just the opposite. The extra instruction sets in modern processors ought to be able to cope better. OK, S5R1 was optimised, but anyone any ideas as to why we are seeing this on S5R2?

[edit] S5R2 using SSE, S5R1 wasn't, as per Akosf's post?

Per CPUz, that particular CPU is XP1700+ Thoroughbred with MMX(+), and 3DNOW(+). No SSE on it.

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RE: S5R2 using SSE, S5R1

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S5R2 using SSE, S5R1 wasn't, as per Akosf's post?


S5R1 had FPU and SSE optimised subroutines too.
S5R2 doesn't use SSE code at moment.

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Per CPUz, that particular CPU is XP1700+ Thoroughbred with MMX(+), and 3DNOW(+). No SSE on it.


I had four Athlon XP 1700+ CPUs, all of them knew SSE.
I went over the AMD Tech Docs to check myself.
All of the Athlon XP CPUs know SSE instructions.

AMD Athlon XP Tech docs:
24309 AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP Processor Model 6 Data Sheet (Palomino)
25175 AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP Processor Model 8 Data Sheet (Thoroughbred)
26237 AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP Processor Model 10 Data Sheet (Barton)

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RE: RE: S5R2 using SSE,

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S5R2 using SSE, S5R1 wasn't, as per Akosf's post?

S5R1 had FPU and SSE optimised subroutines too.
S5R2 doesn't use SSE code at moment.

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Per CPUz, that particular CPU is XP1700+ Thoroughbred with MMX(+), and 3DNOW(+). No SSE on it.

I had four Athlon XP 1700+ CPUs, all of them knew SSE.
I went over the AMD Tech Docs to check myself.
All of the Athlon XP CPUs know SSE instructions.

AMD Athlon XP Tech docs:
24309 AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP Processor Model 6 Data Sheet (Palomino)
25175 AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP Processor Model 8 Data Sheet (Thoroughbred)
26237 AMD Athlonâ„¢ XP Processor Model 10 Data Sheet (Barton)

What about the Thunderbird?

Gary

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RE: What about the

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What about the Thunderbird?


The first and second generation Athlons (Classic and Thunderbird) don't know SSE instructions.

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RE: RE: What about the

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What about the Thunderbird?

The first and second generation Athlons (Classic and Thunderbird) don't know SSE instructions.

Correct.

Mrs Miggins - A lady of uncommon refinement

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