Upon closer inspection, ie. I put my reading glasses on, my work units are labelled eg. 'h1_0374.0_S5R1__1503_S5RIa_0' - or spoken 'aych one underline zero three seven four point zero underline ess five arr ONE underline underline one five zero three underline ess five arr EYE ay underline zero' :-)
So that'd make the 'S5RI' units a subset of 'S5R1' .....
The first part of a Workunit is just the name of the datafile it refers to. As we are using the same data files, they are still labeled S5R1, even if the workunit belongs to S5RI. And yes, in terms of the frequencies we're looking at S5RI is a subset of S5R1.
but in priciple the program shouldn't do something different.
It just seemed to me that these long WUs were doing something like 6..7 times the amount of work per step than the short WUs.
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Originally the workunits resulting from this setup were a bit longer than the long S5R1 WUs, so we decided to cut them in a half to not exclude the slower computers.
BM
Well, I'm doing these long WUs in about 1 hour 40 min each, it must be taking slow computers half way to forever to get them done.
Thanks for the update on the status of S5R1, it was kind of an anticlimatic finish to the S5R1 project with all the server problems. I hope you can find something useful in the data from this S5RI subset.
It looks like a wrong version of the validator had been installed.
Seriously: Bruce will be the first awake with the permissions to fix it, so this should be cured tomorrow morning (CET). All results that have been marked "validate error" should be validated again, probably there's nothing wrong with them.
Seems I was wrong - David has replaced the validator with the proper version.
Thank you Bernd, for the update! :-)
Three cheers for all the hardworking E@H workers!
May you all sleep safe, sound and dry.
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Always a worry, depending upon the font and personal acuity:
1 and I, O and 0, S and 5, E and 3, g and 9, A and 4, B and 8, 2 and Z, b and 6.
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Cheers, Mike.
hope i have that formated right.. mike, my visual acuaty is 20/400 in both eyes :) all so color blind, i forget the exact term but the kind where the names of like colors i.e. black, brown, and red. have no meaning to me. there the same color. same for green, yellow. and so on. i cant spell it but i have "astigmic myopia with nastagnus" ... lay terms, im farsighted nearsighted and my eyes "jitter".
[sarcastic]
needless to say, crossing the road is a real hassle, those darn drivers just wont get out of my way.
[/sarcastic]
seeing without seeing is something the blind learn to do, and seeing beyond vision can be a gift.
hope i have that formated right.. mike, my visual acuaty is 20/400 in both eyes :) all so color blind, i forget the exact term but the kind where the names of like colors i.e. black, brown, and red. have no meaning to me. there the same color. same for green, yellow. and so on. i cant spell it but i have "astigmic myopia with nastagnus" ... lay terms, im farsighted nearsighted and my eyes "jitter".
Yeah, alas you lack ( the genes for ) the correct retinal pigment(s) that captures the appropriate photon frequencies, pumps up the molecular energy level to trigger a neural membrane signal. Blame your parents ..... sap in the family tree. :-)
Astigmatic means an eye's preferential focal length ( ~ ideal distance to focus well ), which depends primarily on corneal contour ( shape of the front window of the eyeball ), is different depending on which axis you examine. So it is different for, say, the up/down axis vs. left/right. Most of us have a smidgen of this if looked at in sufficient detail. You have rather more than most. Nystagmus means, basically, the feedback loop(s) attempting to align both eyes to achieve an agreeable view or the world ( no double vision, same magnification of objects with each eye, acceptable parallax or movement perspective ) are suffering from overshoot and cannot find 'consensus' settings - at a guess due to the other issues.
Kinda makes the Windows Accesibility Options somewhat more relevant, eh?
Actually there's some sweet text to speech stuff around, and not too expensive. I use one 'Text to Speech Pro' which has a great English lady's voice - Audrey - and does a decent job of handling pagination, punctuation and various common idioms.
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needless to say, crossing the road is a real hassle, those darn drivers just wont get out of my way.
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We get that regardless of anyone's vision!
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
BM:
- We are currently testing the setup for a new run. It will consist of only one type of workunits that are a bit more than half as long as the S5R1 long ones have been.
Question? How do the new work units compare to the S5R1 short units? My poor old PII 300 mhz did a short in 13hrs, 45 mins. My first S5RI will take aprox 90+ hrs. acording to bonic manager. Does this look correct?
Haven't crunched any of the new ones, but mathematically... well... a long WU would be about 6 hours on my workstation, a short one less than one hour... maybe 7 or 8 times as much time for a long WU... so if the new ones are half as big as a long one, that would mean perhaps 4 times as much as a short WU. You should be closer to 60 than 90; I think your box is overestimating the time. Mine probably does, because more than 5 hours seem way too much when a LONG WU only takes 6 or 6.5...
BM:
- We are currently testing the setup for a new run. It will consist of only one type of workunits that are a bit more than half as long as the S5R1 long ones have been.
Question? How do the new work units compare to the S5R1 short units? My poor old PII 300 mhz did a short in 13hrs, 45 mins. My first S5RI will take aprox 90+ hrs. acording to bonic manager. Does this look correct?
On my C2D the new units take about 4.5 times longer to crunch than the old short units. Can't help more than that, all my old slower computers now have homes with penniless students.
RE: Upon closer inspection,
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The first part of a Workunit is just the name of the datafile it refers to. As we are using the same data files, they are still labeled S5R1, even if the workunit belongs to S5RI. And yes, in terms of the frequencies we're looking at S5RI is a subset of S5R1.
BM
BM
RE: but in priciple the
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It just seemed to me that these long WUs were doing something like 6..7 times the amount of work per step than the short WUs.
Well, I'm doing these long WUs in about 1 hour 40 min each, it must be taking slow computers half way to forever to get them done.
Thanks for the update on the status of S5R1, it was kind of an anticlimatic finish to the S5R1 project with all the server problems. I hope you can find something useful in the data from this S5RI subset.
RE: I hope you can find
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The work is important whether or not something is found, though it'd be sweet if some waves were found.
If nothing is found, tighter and tighter constraints are put on the background gravitational radiation and how often things like infall events happen.
RE: It looks like a wrong
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Seems I was wrong - David has replaced the validator with the proper version.
BM
BM
RE: Thank you Bernd, for
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hope i have that formated right.. mike, my visual acuaty is 20/400 in both eyes :) all so color blind, i forget the exact term but the kind where the names of like colors i.e. black, brown, and red. have no meaning to me. there the same color. same for green, yellow. and so on. i cant spell it but i have "astigmic myopia with nastagnus" ... lay terms, im farsighted nearsighted and my eyes "jitter".
[sarcastic]
needless to say, crossing the road is a real hassle, those darn drivers just wont get out of my way.
[/sarcastic]
seeing without seeing is something the blind learn to do, and seeing beyond vision can be a gift.
RE: hope i have that
)
Yeah, alas you lack ( the genes for ) the correct retinal pigment(s) that captures the appropriate photon frequencies, pumps up the molecular energy level to trigger a neural membrane signal. Blame your parents ..... sap in the family tree. :-)
Astigmatic means an eye's preferential focal length ( ~ ideal distance to focus well ), which depends primarily on corneal contour ( shape of the front window of the eyeball ), is different depending on which axis you examine. So it is different for, say, the up/down axis vs. left/right. Most of us have a smidgen of this if looked at in sufficient detail. You have rather more than most. Nystagmus means, basically, the feedback loop(s) attempting to align both eyes to achieve an agreeable view or the world ( no double vision, same magnification of objects with each eye, acceptable parallax or movement perspective ) are suffering from overshoot and cannot find 'consensus' settings - at a guess due to the other issues.
Kinda makes the Windows Accesibility Options somewhat more relevant, eh?
Actually there's some sweet text to speech stuff around, and not too expensive. I use one 'Text to Speech Pro' which has a great English lady's voice - Audrey - and does a decent job of handling pagination, punctuation and various common idioms.
We get that regardless of anyone's vision!
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
RE: BM: - We are
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Question? How do the new work units compare to the S5R1 short units? My poor old PII 300 mhz did a short in 13hrs, 45 mins. My first S5RI will take aprox 90+ hrs. acording to bonic manager. Does this look correct?
Haven't crunched any of the
)
Haven't crunched any of the new ones, but mathematically... well... a long WU would be about 6 hours on my workstation, a short one less than one hour... maybe 7 or 8 times as much time for a long WU... so if the new ones are half as big as a long one, that would mean perhaps 4 times as much as a short WU. You should be closer to 60 than 90; I think your box is overestimating the time. Mine probably does, because more than 5 hours seem way too much when a LONG WU only takes 6 or 6.5...
RE: RE: BM: - We are
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On my C2D the new units take about 4.5 times longer to crunch than the old short units. Can't help more than that, all my old slower computers now have homes with penniless students.
Andy
21 hours on a 450 p3! Woooo!
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21 hours on a 450 p3! Woooo!