Information about the new S5 workunits

Bernd Machenschalk
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RE: 4. Is the daily quota

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4. Is the daily quota staying at 32 or changing to something different?


I'll let Bruce have the final word on it.

In principle the longer Workunits should presently (i.e. with the current speed of the Apps) keep the machines busy even with 32 short WUs / day / CPU. The downside of a large quota is that we allow a host to trash a large number of Tasks at once if something goes wrong on that machine.

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RE: The intention is that

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The intention is that the average Einstein@Home participant will get the same credit per hour "work" than what he gets on other BOINC projects.

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I respect that this is what the project should do.

It does, however, mean that those of us who have been enjoying a credit feast with the akosf S4 aps will see our credit production per hour nosedive with S5 (since we have been getting far higher than BOINC-standard credit per hour).

Personally, I think this is just fine. Akosf's aps provided a wonderful speedup. Those of us who adopted them early constituted an extremely large-scale "beta test" which was arguably useful to him and to the project in validating that the science results were useful and did not come hitched to high data-dependent application fault rates of one kind or another. We got a temporary adventurer's reward of credit, but as the more efficient techniques are folded into the project it is back to parity. Should yet further independent improvements arise, it seems likely your current credit scheme would again allow them a decent interval of extra credit/hour reflecting their higher science/hour.

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RE: Should yet further

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Should yet further independent improvements arise, it seems likely your current credit scheme would again allow them a decent interval of extra credit/hour reflecting their higher science/hour.


Precisely. That's what's intended. And working together with Akos I actually intend to further speed up the Apps a bit during the run.

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RE: We're only distributing

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We're only distributing very few S5R1 WUs right now for some fine-tuning.

Time to add a new box on Server Status page with S5R1 progress.

And a separate Work and Results frame for S4R2 and S5R1 runs would be lovely, too. To keep a tap on how much S4 results is still out there.

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RE: 4. Is the daily quota

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4. Is the daily quota staying at 32 or changing to something different?

I'm running one of the long S5 WU (h1_0976.5_S5R1__1262_S5R1a_0) on an Opteron 248 CPU. If progress is linear, I don't think there's any danger of coming anywhere near the quota with S5.

By my estimates (13.661% completed after 1:17:43) it will take about 9.5 hours for one of these work units (as opposed to approx. 38-40 minutes for S4 work units with AKOSF S41.07) Ouch, that's 14-15 times as long.

Early days, I know...

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Since you guys will use some

Since you guys will use some engines from Akos, the question is, did he have any time yet to work on the engines for Linux or Mac too?

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RE: RE: Bernd, for all

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Bernd, for all powercrunchers and I know a few of them we are interrested to know how much credit the new workunits will grant.

The exact crediting is one of the parameters we want to fine-tune with the current first S5R1 WUs.

That is dissapointing:
http://einsteinathome.org/workunit/9750922
That means a RAC of 620 for my machine.

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RE: RE: RE: Bernd, for

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Bernd, for all powercrunchers and I know a few of them we are interrested to know how much credit the new workunits will grant.

The exact crediting is one of the parameters we want to fine-tune with the current first S5R1 WUs.

That is dissapointing:
http://einsteinathome.org/workunit/9750922
That means a RAC of 620 for my machine.

faeshn

What amout of credit were you expecting? (just curious, not ment to flame)

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I think, this is the number

I think, this is the number of credits you get, if you use the opt. app. from Akos and don,t use an optimized BOINC-client. So it would be correct, I think. And don´t be sad, it will be the same for all users...

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