Information about the new S5 workunits

Elphidieus
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RE: That is

Message 37527 in response to message 37524

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That is dissapointing:
http://einsteinathome.org/workunit/9750922
That means a RAC of 620 for my machine.

faeshn

I can assume you're factoring in credits instead of WU crunch time.

If this is disappointing to you, imagine those with less powerful systems.

Forget about the credits and crunch on...

faeshn
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RE: I think, this is the

Message 37528 in response to message 37526

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I think, this is the number of credits you get, if you use the opt. app. from Akos and don,t use an optimized BOINC-client. So it would be correct, I think. And don´t be sad, it will be the same for all users...

and @Robert Everly

We had to expect that credit will be lower. I did not expect, that coming credits will be that low. With S5 the credits will be at same level as before akos came and we needed to use truxsoft or boincstudio for not lowleveling other user with original client.

faeshn

Mats Nilsson
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RE: RE: 4. Is the daily

Message 37529 in response to message 37522

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4. Is the daily quota staying at 32 or changing to something different?

I'm running one of the long S5 WU (h1_0976.5_S5R1__1262_S5R1a_0) on an Opteron 248 CPU. If progress is linear, I don't think there's any danger of coming anywhere near the quota with S5.

By my estimates (13.661% completed after 1:17:43) it will take about 9.5 hours for one of these work units (as opposed to approx. 38-40 minutes for S4 work units with AKOSF S41.07) Ouch, that's 14-15 times as long.

Early days, I know...

We just have to hope for some processor optimized app from akosf when S5 start running on a more regular basis.

Bruce Allen
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RE: RE: We're only

Message 37530 in response to message 37520

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We're only distributing very few S5R1 WUs right now for some fine-tuning.

Time to add a new box on Server Status page with S5R1 progress.

And a separate Work and Results frame for S4R2 and S5R1 runs would be lovely, too. To keep a tap on how much S4 results is still out there.

I'll put up the S5 work status box as soon as we are done making S4 workunits in a couple of more days. And yes, I'll add something to the page to track the number of S4 workunits which are still in progress (no canonical result found so far). Look for it over the weekend.

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Bruce Allen
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RE: RE: 4. Is the daily

Message 37531 in response to message 37517

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4. Is the daily quota staying at 32 or changing to something different?

I'll let Bruce have the final word on it.

In principle the longer Workunits should presently (i.e. with the current speed of the Apps) keep the machines busy even with 32 short WUs / day / CPU. The downside of a large quota is that we allow a host to trash a large number of Tasks at once if something goes wrong on that machine.

BM

I didn't plan to change the daily quota, but if you have machines running out of work, please shout and I will bump it up.

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Bruce Allen
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RE: Since you guys will use

Message 37532 in response to message 37523

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Since you guys will use some engines from Akos, the question is, did he have any time yet to work on the engines for Linux or Mac too?

Bernd will have the final word on this, but yes the Linux and OS X apps have been significantly speeded up. I think on my Linux Opteron boxes I should be getting RAC values almost twice as large as before (much closer to Win32 numbers). Mac OS X PPC should be faster, and I think Mac OS X Intel will be *much* faster than before.

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Matt LO
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RE: Note that while S4

Message 37533 in response to message 37502

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Note that while S4 units are still around, you may also get them after you removed the app_info.xml and you will download and run them with the old official App (4.40 in your case). We can't completely avoid this, but the way to make this rather unlikely would be to reset the project after your client has ran out of S4 work to remove the data files that still refer to S4.

BM

So I received today 3 old WUs and 1 new. I noticed a message in my log saying

"Got server request to delete file z1_1416.5"

Does this mean I will get no more S4 WUs? Not sure if that's the data file for S4 data or not. Just wondering if I'll have to monitor my machine or do the reset project thing you propose to prevent crunching S4 data after removing my app_info.xml file.

M

Bernd Machenschalk
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RE: RE: Since you guys

Message 37534 in response to message 37532

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Since you guys will use some engines from Akos, the question is, did he have any time yet to work on the engines for Linux or Mac too?

Bernd will have the final word on this.


The "Akos engine", i.e. his ideas and some code from him (and a bit of me, too) have gotten into the code the Apps for all x86-based platforms are built from, so the Windows-, Linux- and Intel-Mac-Apps should now all be roughly equally fast (i.e. do the same on the same hardware).

The PPC Mac App has seen some improvent, too, due to ideas from Akos and me, but not as much as the x86-based ones.

Anyway, the work on the Apps will continue during the new run. I believe there is still some room for improvement.

BM

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ROG
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Got my first S5 unit today.

Got my first S5 unit today. Should I replace akosf's (thanks dude!)albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe with the original before the new S5 unit starts processing? Just checkin... don't want to mess anything up...

ROG :}

Bernd Machenschalk
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RE: Got my first S5 unit

Message 37536 in response to message 37535

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Got my first S5 unit today. Should I replace akosf's (thanks dude!)albert_4.37_windows_intelx86.exe with the original before the new S5 unit starts processing?


not necessary - the S5R1 App will be a new file.

BM

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