S39L Observation Thread

Raistmer*
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Hi all Some words about

Hi all
Some words about seti_K78 for SETI.
I upgraded 4 comps to this verion - 2 Athlon 64 with SSE2/SSE3 support - it seems seti_K78 faster than Crunch3r's dedicated verions for SSE2/SSE3 - very cool :)
But another 2 comps are Athlon XP with only SSE support. I thought it's OK cause seti_K78 claimed to be optimisation of Crunch3r's SSE version and it has the same size indeed, but... both PC returned computation error immediately on all WUs in cache :(.
Installation procedure and BOINC version are the same on all 4 PCs. So maybe seti_K78 contains some instructions Athlon XP cant understand?
Or what? Please give me some ideas/support in this

P.S.
from stderr:
***UNHANDLED EXCEPTION****
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00509404 read attempt to address 0x01F0FFC0

AndyK
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very interesting! I tested it

very interesting! I tested it on a XP2100+, which is SSE capable, but not SSE2 and had the same error (see Message 28811)

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RE: from

Message 26405 in response to message 26403

Quote:
from stderr:
***UNHANDLED EXCEPTION****
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00509404 read attempt to address 0x01F0FFC0

There are small cycle with two load instruction to prefetch datas into L1 cache. I did it long time ago, so I can't remember exactly.
I see that there is one free byte, so you can exchange one of them (the critical one in your case) with a prefetchnta (mmx) instruction.
Try to modify:
00109404: 8B 4C DE 80 83 EB 10 75 F3 89 EA 90 ->
00109404: 0F 18 44 DE 80 83 EB 10 75 F2 89 EA

Akos Fekete
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RE: 00109404: 8B 4C DE 80

Message 26406 in response to message 26405

Quote:
00109404: 8B 4C DE 80 83 EB 10 75 F3 89 EA 90 ->
00109404: 0F 18 44 DE 80 83 EB 10 75 F2 89 EA

SETI_K78b
Well, I modified, but I'm not interested in SETI.

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RE: RE: 00109404: 8B 4C

Message 26407 in response to message 26406

Quote:
Quote:
00109404: 8B 4C DE 80 83 EB 10 75 F3 89 EA 90 ->
00109404: 0F 18 44 DE 80 83 EB 10 75 F2 89 EA
SETI_K78b
Well, I modified, but I'm not interested in SETI.


Hmm... will this run on a SSE-capable Pentium III-M?

[edit] Just tried, it definitely runs not on SSE-capable Pentium III-M:
***UNHANDLED EXCEPTION****
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00509400 read attempt to address 0x021AFF80

Crunch3r's original SSE-Version is crunching away since it came out, though :|

Aloha, Uli

Akos Fekete
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RE: ***UNHANDLED

Message 26408 in response to message 26407

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***UNHANDLED EXCEPTION****
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00509400 read attempt to address 0x021AFF80

Ok. Perhaps they are wrong. I deleted them.

debugas
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after installing Optimised

after installing Optimised by akosf (S-39L)
my calculation speeds more than doubled
both on Celeron 1.70Ghz (almost tripled) and Pentium3 700Mhz
S39L runs really super well on Celerons with small L1 L2 cash !!!
small celerons' cash is a real bottle neck of these processors :/

I have a question though - wandering in results database i've found that many users still use slow original exe file . I just wonder would not it be possible to make BOINC update exe file depending on the user's CPU so that all users run fastest exe available matching their CPUs best ?

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RE: I just wonder would not

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I just wonder would not it be possible to make BOINC update exe file depending on the user's CPU so that all users run fastest exe available matching their CPUs best ?

Check out this link.

Michael Roycraft
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RE: ... S39L runs really

Message 26411 in response to message 26409

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... S39L runs really super well on Celerons with small L1 L2 cash !!!
small celerons' cash is a real bottle neck of these processors :/

Funny, I've never noticed any cash packed with any of my CPUs :-{ Is this kind of like an instant rebate?
Perhaps I should have shook the package. :-)

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It's really impressing what

It's really impressing what can be achieved with an optimized client. I'm using a Pentium M running at 1.6 GHz. The execution time for one WU using the original client was round about 8 hours. This dropped to 2.5 hours using version A36 of the optimized application. Now with S39L the time is reduced down to 1.5 hours. I'm speechless !

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