Version 1.73 (beta) requires at least Android 10, but you should still be able to use the older app...
The OpenCL app for Android has not been released yet due to some issues in ensuring compatibility and reliability across different GPU vendors and Android versions.
The price of $3000 makes this do-able as a BOINC cruncher. The catch is how well will it do on non-4 bit tasks?
It would be nice if someone like Bernd or some other Einstein Expert would give their obviously untested opinion of how something like this will do on Einstein tasks, if at all.
The price of $3000 makes this do-able as a BOINC cruncher. The catch is how well will it do on non-4 bit tasks?
It would be nice if someone like Bernd or some other Einstein Expert would give their obviously untested opinion of how something like this will do on Einstein tasks, if at all.
this project works mostly in single (FP32) and some double precision (FP64). And likely some small amount of integer operations along the way.
these low precision AI devices will not do work for Einstein. Unless they can do SP and DP also, but they will be much slower at those precisions, as we already see with GPUs. It’s just a small PC similar to other things like the Intel NUC, Jetson Orin Nano, or even Mac Minis, but with the latest tech. The specs are pretty impressive for the size and power. It will certainly be slower than a normal GPU though for Einstein.
The price of $3000 makes this do-able as a BOINC cruncher. The catch is how well will it do on non-4 bit tasks?
It would be nice if someone like Bernd or some other Einstein Expert would give their obviously untested opinion of how something like this will do on Einstein tasks, if at all.
this project works mostly in single (FP32) and some double precision (FP64). And likely some small amount of integer operations along the way.
these low precision AI devices will not do work for Einstein. Unless they can do SP and DP also, but they will be much slower at those precisions, as we already see with GPUs. It’s just a small PC similar to other things like the Intel NUC, Jetson Orin Nano, or even Mac Minis, but with the latest tech. The specs are pretty impressive for the size and power. It will certainly be slower than a normal GPU though for Einstein.
Thank you for that honest assessment, I will be passing on this mini pc as well then.
And you are clearly an ARM fan since you are running 4. You are also a member of the oldest still running that Amd CPU club.
And you took a bunch of systems off line in late December.
Respectfully,
Yes I took a bunch off in October to cut the electric bill but I'm still running 18 devices which includes 5 Arm devices, I got a new one for Christmas, and 3 laptops.
My ultimate goal is to keep on crunching until I can't anymore!! My more moderate goal is to reach some milestones on the Boinc Project wuprop which tracks the hours you put in at each Project
The max they count for each app is 100k hours, they count almost every app and even give out badges for the different milestones you achieve, ie 100 hours, 250 hours, 500 hours, 1000 hours etc etc.up to their max of 100K hours per app.
I have 1,668,596,448,352 total credits and am #4 in the World with them so they aren't my main goal any longer.
And you are clearly an ARM fan since you are running 4. You are also a member of the oldest still running that Amd CPU club.
And you took a bunch of systems off line in late December.
Respectfully,
Yes I took a bunch off in October to cut the electric bill but I'm still running 18 devices which includes 5 Arm devices, I got a new one for Christmas, and 3 laptops.
My ultimate goal is to keep on crunching until I can't anymore!! My more moderate goal is to reach some milestones on the Boinc Project wuprop which tracks the hours you put in at each Project
The max they count for each app is 100k hours, they count almost every app and even give out badges for the different milestones you achieve, ie 100 hours, 250 hours, 500 hours, 1000 hours etc etc.up to their max of 100K hours per app.
I have 1,668,596,448,352 total credits and am #4 in the World with them so they aren't my main goal any longer.
Version 1.73 (beta) requires
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Version 1.73 (beta) requires at least Android 10, but you should still be able to use the older app...
The OpenCL app for Android has not been released yet due to some issues in ensuring compatibility and reliability across different GPU vendors and Android versions.
https://www.tomshardware.com/
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https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/worlds-fastest-arm-pc-put-to-the-test-128-core-ampere-altra-max-cpu-claims-128-core-cinebench-2024-world-record
The tested version is only $17,000
Sigh.
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association).
https://www.theregister.com/2
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https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/07/nvidia_project_digits_mini_pc/
The price of $3000 makes this do-able as a BOINC cruncher. The catch is how well will it do on non-4 bit tasks?
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association).
Tom M
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It would be nice if someone like Bernd or some other Einstein Expert would give their obviously untested opinion of how something like this will do on Einstein tasks, if at all.
mikey wrote: Tom M
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this project works mostly in single (FP32) and some double precision (FP64). And likely some small amount of integer operations along the way.
these low precision AI devices will not do work for Einstein. Unless they can do SP and DP also, but they will be much slower at those precisions, as we already see with GPUs. It’s just a small PC similar to other things like the Intel NUC, Jetson Orin Nano, or even Mac Minis, but with the latest tech. The specs are pretty impressive for the size and power. It will certainly be slower than a normal GPU though for Einstein.
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Thank you for that honest assessment, I will be passing on this mini pc as well then.
Mikey,What is your goal
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Mikey,
What is your goal for BOINC?
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And you are clearly an ARM fan since you are running 4. You are also a member of the oldest still running that Amd CPU club.
And you took a bunch of systems off line in late December.
Respectfully,
A Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association).
https://www.tomshardware.com/
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https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/gaming-pcs/nvidias-arm-based-pc-chips-for-consumers-to-launch-in-september-2025-commercial-to-follow-in-2026-report
Presumably it will support Nvidia GPU's. While it apparently is a Windows on Arm product I am assuming it can also run Linux.
Maybe we will have more Arm applications besides Asteroids, e@h and Sidock (just changed to Arm only recently).
There are already two ARM motherboards that have standard Pcie slots that run GPU's, that I know about. The more the merrier.
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Plus a Hackaday that managed to add a pcie slot via a daughter board to run a GPU for a game. I think it was a Pi project.
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Tom M wrote: Mikey, What is
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Yes I took a bunch off in October to cut the electric bill but I'm still running 18 devices which includes 5 Arm devices, I got a new one for Christmas, and 3 laptops.
My ultimate goal is to keep on crunching until I can't anymore!! My more moderate goal is to reach some milestones on the Boinc Project wuprop which tracks the hours you put in at each Project
https://wuprop.boinc-af.org/home.php
The max they count for each app is 100k hours, they count almost every app and even give out badges for the different milestones you achieve, ie 100 hours, 250 hours, 500 hours, 1000 hours etc etc.up to their max of 100K hours per app.
I have 1,668,596,448,352 total credits and am #4 in the World with them so they aren't my main goal any longer.
mikey
mikey wrote: Tom M
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EDIT: I own FOUR R-Pi devices right now NOT 5.