Arm CPU crunching

Tom M
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Gandolph1 wrote: Just got my

Gandolph1 wrote:

Just got my new Raspberry PI 5!  Thinking of installing boinc on it just to see what it can do, or has someone else beat me to it?

Looks like STFN has confirmed boinc runs well on the Pi5.

But part of the pleasure is getting your own system working.

And competing in the highest performing Arm CPU contest...

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Tom M wrote: Gandolph1

Tom M wrote:

Gandolph1 wrote:

Just got my new Raspberry PI 5!  Thinking of installing boinc on it just to see what it can do, or has someone else beat me to it?

Looks like STFN has confirmed boinc runs well on the Pi5.

But part of the pleasure is getting your own system working.

And competing in the highest performing Arm CPU contest...

 

Yeah, I see that now....  Oh well, as you say its the challenge of getting it running....

 

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  Tom M wrote: And

 

Tom M wrote:

And competing in the highest performing Arm CPU contest...

That does look like it will be a manual list effort too.

Keith M is running an Arm MB with GPU-based e@h processing so he won't be on the same playing field.

But anyone running a Pi cluster would be reporting individual MB results. So it would be a credible competition.

We need a list of entries and then a rank by RAC listing.

Respectfully,

 

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It's chewing on its first 2

It's chewing on its first 2 tasks right now.  Decided to limit it to 2 until I see how long it takes to finish them before moving up to 3.  I'm not sure its worth trying to run 4 at a time....

 

gh 

 

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Gandolph1 wrote:It's

Gandolph1 wrote:

It's chewing on its first 2 tasks right now.  Decided to limit it to 2 until I see how long it takes to finish them before moving up to 3.  I'm not sure its worth trying to run 4 at a time....

 

gh 

Ah, isn't that cute? :)

It does depend on where it bottlenecks and if the OS scheduler can still free up time for non-Boinc processing when you run 100% cores.

On other hardware I have never seen any production benefit from running 100% and gotten some rather laggy response times to the keyboard/mouse inputs when I did.

Tom M

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Just letting my two Raspberry

Just letting my two Raspberry Pi's run for awhile to compare throughput.  I loaded them with the same OS, and they both have the latest firmware.  Should be a fair comparison of the Pi5 vs Pi4.

Raspberry Pi 5

Raspberry Pi 4

 

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https://www.digitaltrends.com

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/google-chrome-arm-version-released/

One of my questions is will we ever see a competitive implementation of boinc and boinc projects under windows on arm?

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Tom M

Tom M wrote:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/google-chrome-arm-version-released/

One of my questions is will we ever see a competitive implementation of boinc and boinc projects under windows on arm? 

I would think in time yes, the more the big hitters make arm processing more main stream for Servers etc then the Boinc Projects will respond just like they are with the 'new' Intel stand alone gpu's that are proving capable crunchers. Some of you guys are using Epyc stuff now with 128 cpu's and more and projects like Yafu are making 128 core tasks to support them.

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Tom M

Tom M wrote:

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amperes-128-core-cpu-works-with-a-motherboard-the-size-of-a-dinner-plate

At $1500 with CPU, using ddr4 memory and PCIe 4 it isn't cutting edge. But it's price range makes it competitive for boinc users who also are willing to buy rome generation Epyc products.

 

https://www.servethehome.com/making-arm-desktops-viable-ampere-altra-noctua-nh-d9-amp-4926-4u-and-nh-u14s-amp-4926/

I would like to apologize. I missed the CPU cooling issue raised by someone else.

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for BOINC you also have to

for BOINC you also have to consider the available applications too.

ARM apps usually have less optimizations, and will run slower real world vs mature/optimized x86 apps. so even if the hardware theoretically is comparable, and benchmarks indicate it's comparable, it will likely not have the same kind of throughput on BOINC.

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