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Phil
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Hi all,

I haven't owned a Windows machine in a lot of years.

I'm building a cruncher and I'm ok with the hardware, but am short on knowledge for the OS.

Any recommendations for which Windows version to use?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

 

Phil

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GWGeorge007
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Phil wrote: Hi all, I

Phil wrote:

Hi all,

I haven't owned a Windows machine in a lot of years.

I'm building a cruncher and I'm ok with the hardware, but am short on knowledge for the OS.

Any recommendations for which Windows version to use?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

If you're going to run BOINC, I'd go with Linux!  You'd have better options with Linux, especially Ubuntu.

George

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Phil wrote:Hi all,I

Phil wrote:

Hi all,

I haven't owned a Windows machine in a lot of years.

I'm building a cruncher and I'm ok with the hardware, but am short on knowledge for the OS.

Any recommendations for which Windows version to use?

Any thoughts are appreciated. 

They did some tests and Win11 is faster than Win10 for gaming, but I agree with George Linux is much easier if you know how to use it.

GWGeorge007
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Phil wrote: Hi all, I

Phil wrote:

Hi all,

I haven't owned a Windows machine in a lot of years.

I'm building a cruncher and I'm ok with the hardware, but am short on knowledge for the OS.

Any recommendations for which Windows version to use?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

If you're going to run BOINC, I'd go with Linux!  You'd have better options with Linux, especially Ubuntu.

 

mikey wrote:

They did some tests and Win11 is faster than Win10 for gaming, but I agree with George Linux is much easier if you know how to use it.

Maybe you could do a dual-boot, or put up Linux within your new Windows system...  or vice-versa, Windows in Linux.

I'm just sayin'...

George

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Phil
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So is Ubuntu the best flavor

So is Ubuntu the best flavor for a cruncher? To be honest I didn't even think of Linux. It's been almost 10 years since I had a Linux machine. I bet a lot has changed.

I've been strictly Apple for almost 10 years now. I just upgraded to a Mac Mini M4 for personal use and it also crunches. I changed my old Mac Mini i3 to just strictly crunching. It's old but will still be useful for crunching for many years to come.

Thanks, Phil

 

Phil

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GWGeorge007
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Phil wrote: So is Ubuntu the

Phil wrote:

So is Ubuntu the best flavor for a cruncher? To be honest I didn't even think of Linux. It's been almost 10 years since I had a Linux machine. I bet a lot has changed.

Yes, Ubuntu is better for crunching... IMO - better than Mint or Fedora, and many of us can help you walk through some of the nuances of Ubuntu if you need help.  A lot has changed, but I feel it is better now than it was 10 yrs ago.

George

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You are rather restricted for

You are rather restricted for both gpu and cpu applications using a Mac.  There are very few projects that provide Mac applications compared to just basic Windows and Linux.

You can refer to this web page to see which projects support your Mac.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

And there are not a lot of projects that do the new ARM based Macs.  Most projects that support Mac on that list are referencing old Intel based Macs.

 

Phil
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Keith Myers wrote: You are

Keith Myers wrote:

You are rather restricted for both gpu and cpu applications using a Mac.  There are very few projects that provide Mac applications compared to just basic Windows and Linux.

You can refer to this web page to see which projects support your Mac.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

And there are not a lot of projects that do the new ARM based Macs.  Most projects that support Mac on that list are referencing old Intel based Macs.

That old i3 Mini Mac was my personal computer since 2018. I decided to upgrade to the M4 model for personal use, then decided to get back into crunching. The old i3 is just starting to build RAC, as is the new M4. Wow, what a difference in throughput!

I know Macs are limited in what they can do, so I just started ordering parts to build a PC. I really like my Apple products, but I refuse to pay the price for a full size Mac. I'll build the PC and use Ubuntu. If you look at my computers, you can see some of them did a fairly good job. This time I will do a better job of picking components and properly matching them up.

Phil

 

Phil

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mikey
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Phil wrote: Keith Myers

Phil wrote:

Keith Myers wrote:

You are rather restricted for both gpu and cpu applications using a Mac.  There are very few projects that provide Mac applications compared to just basic Windows and Linux.

You can refer to this web page to see which projects support your Mac.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

And there are not a lot of projects that do the new ARM based Macs.  Most projects that support Mac on that list are referencing old Intel based Macs.

That old i3 Mini Mac was my personal computer since 2018. I decided to upgrade to the M4 model for personal use, then decided to get back into crunching. The old i3 is just starting to build RAC, as is the new M4. Wow, what a difference in throughput!

I know Macs are limited in what they can do, so I just started ordering parts to build a PC. I really like my Apple products, but I refuse to pay the price for a full size Mac. I'll build the PC and use Ubuntu. If you look at my computers, you can see some of them did a fairly good job. This time I will do a better job of picking components and properly matching them up.

Phil

I took the Mac harddrive out of my Cheesegrator and put in a 250gb SSD and loaded Linux on it and it was up and crunching in under 45 minutes, that I-7 never had it so good!! It also gave me access to ALOT more Boinc Projects and their tasks!!

mikey

Phil
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mikey wrote: Phil

mikey wrote:

Phil wrote:

Keith Myers wrote:

You are rather restricted for both gpu and cpu applications using a Mac.  There are very few projects that provide Mac applications compared to just basic Windows and Linux.

You can refer to this web page to see which projects support your Mac.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

And there are not a lot of projects that do the new ARM based Macs.  Most projects that support Mac on that list are referencing old Intel based Macs.

That old i3 Mini Mac was my personal computer since 2018. I decided to upgrade to the M4 model for personal use, then decided to get back into crunching. The old i3 is just starting to build RAC, as is the new M4. Wow, what a difference in throughput!

I know Macs are limited in what they can do, so I just started ordering parts to build a PC. I really like my Apple products, but I refuse to pay the price for a full size Mac. I'll build the PC and use Ubuntu. If you look at my computers, you can see some of them did a fairly good job. This time I will do a better job of picking components and properly matching them up.

Phil

I took the Mac harddrive out of my Cheesegrator and put in a 250gb SSD and loaded Linux on it and it was up and crunching in under 45 minutes, that I-7 never had it so good!! It also gave me access to ALOT more Boinc Projects and their tasks!!

mikey

Nice!

 

Phil

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Hello!Phil wrote:"Any

Hello!

Phil wrote:

"Any recommendations for which Windows version to use?"

Since beginning my first PC running Windows version 3.12, about 40(?) years ago, and now Win11x64Pro. But Windows 11 Home is for most purposes sufficient. There are no other versions of Windows now, that´ are supported by Microsoft, except you want the Server version, which is expensive. Win11 is running really smooth, with almost no crunching error at all. Somewhat nerving are the updates of the OS about 1/month. But it’s necessary to avoid becoming hacked. And a proper, at all time actual virus defender is necessary too, for this most popular OS. The tests of Windows internal Defender became much better within the last years and are ranging now in the middle class.

But I became aware, that still some machines running E@H in the US are using Windows 7 (hi, hi, hi !!!), behind an external firewall (?). And these are unable to run modern GPUs.

Kind regards and happy crunching

Martin

 

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