I picked up a copy of Win11Pro. I'm just waiting for the tasks to run out so I can dump the problem child computer and load Windows up.
I had installed Ubuntu 24.04 and it's been nothing but problems. And now the long wait. Somehow Boinc downloaded several days worth of CPU tasks.
This was a factory computer that I installed Ubuntu on.
While I am not the most knowledgeable computer dude, I don't think it was anything I did. We'll just have to wait until the tasks run out. I'm not willing, so far, to abort the remainder and make the servers start over on them.
I would never install something like Norton or McAfee on any computer, but do any of you find it necessary these days to run Defender or something on your crunchers?
If so, any info on how it would affect production?
lot of persons say that Windows Defender is good enough for every day use.
Depends where you travel in the Internet.
I use BitDefender, but I'm not sure if I really need it since it has never given an alarm.
Except for expired certificates.
Windows Defender (not BitDefender) is always active and is updated regularly.
Do a search in the internet to get some opinions - but I'm sure you already did that.
sfv
I should have been more specific.
I use only Macs for personal use. My question was specifically for computers for crunching. My research is telling me to agree with you. Once you wade thru all the doomsayers and buy me buy me types, Defender is just fine considering these computers will be for Einstein@Home only.
Thank you, and I would love to hear more opinions on this.
Over time MS has had some VERY bad ratings on it's a/v software even after they bought a good one they had bad rarings, BUT the last few years they have been rated #1, 2 or 3 which includes the pay ones so I pay for an a/v, ESET, on my laptop, one of my desktops and my sons laptop so he can worry about getting his Masters Degree not paying for an a/v. I always get reports on my pc's saying nothing has gotten thru so far, knock on wood, and right now I have 12 pc's running without a paid for a/v. including my linux ones, YES I run the MS default a/v on my Windows pc's that don't have ESET.
I use only Macs for personal use. My question was specifically for computers for crunching.
I switched to Windows after 30 years with Apple. You are fine with windows out of the box.
If you crunch only, and don't even install an e-mail client and other software going online the risk is extremely small.
Yes there always is the theoretical chance of being hit by a zero day exploit but that's something most never experience in their lifetime. And nothing protects you against that anyway. What's the worst case? You re-install windows and boinc, that's not too much work. If you are paranoid don't mount any storage of your Apple on the windows machine but access the windows machine from your mac in case you do want to transfer files over the network.
And don't use the same system passowords for your Windows and Apple computers.
I use only Macs for personal use. My question was specifically for computers for crunching.
I switched to Windows after 30 years with Apple. You are fine with windows out of the box.
If you crunch only, and don't even install an e-mail client and other software going online the risk is extremely small.
Yes there always is the theoretical chance of being hit by a zero day exploit but that's something most never experience in their lifetime. And nothing protects you against that anyway. What's the worst case? You re-install windows and boinc, that's not too much work. If you are paranoid don't mount any storage of your Apple on the windows machine but access the windows machine from your mac in case you do want to transfer files over the network.
And don't use the same system passowords for your Windows and Apple computers.
That's it.
Good advice.
The first thing I do on any cruncher is strip every unneeded piece of software out of it. They don't have email, not even Notepad, lol.
Every single machine and app has a unique password.
I use only Macs for personal use. My question was specifically for computers for crunching.
I switched to Windows after 30 years with Apple. You are fine with windows out of the box.
If you crunch only, and don't even install an e-mail client and other software going online the risk is extremely small.
Yes there always is the theoretical chance of being hit by a zero day exploit but that's something most never experience in their lifetime. And nothing protects you against that anyway. What's the worst case? You re-install windows and boinc, that's not too much work. If you are paranoid don't mount any storage of your Apple on the windows machine but access the windows machine from your mac in case you do want to transfer files over the network.
And don't use the same system passowords for your Windows and Apple computers.
That's it.
Good advice.
The first thing I do on any cruncher is strip every unneeded piece of software out of it. They don't have email, not even Notepad, lol.
Every single machine and app has a unique password.
Thanks for the input.
Phil
How do you edit the various config files then? It would be a pain in the neck to do it on another pc and copy it over every time. I use the same password for 99% of my pc's as they are JUST crunchers, I use unique passwords on most of the pc's that I use to go on the internet but there are only a couple of those, most don't except for Boinc stuff anyway.
I use only Macs for personal use. My question was specifically for computers for crunching.
I switched to Windows after 30 years with Apple. You are fine with windows out of the box.
If you crunch only, and don't even install an e-mail client and other software going online the risk is extremely small.
Yes there always is the theoretical chance of being hit by a zero day exploit but that's something most never experience in their lifetime. And nothing protects you against that anyway. What's the worst case? You re-install windows and boinc, that's not too much work. If you are paranoid don't mount any storage of your Apple on the windows machine but access the windows machine from your mac in case you do want to transfer files over the network.
And don't use the same system passowords for your Windows and Apple computers.
That's it.
Good advice.
The first thing I do on any cruncher is strip every unneeded piece of software out of it. They don't have email, not even Notepad, lol.
Every single machine and app has a unique password.
Thanks for the input.
Phil
How do you edit the various config files then? It would be a pain in the neck to do it on another pc and copy it over every time. I use the same password for 99% of my pc's as they are JUST crunchers, I use unique passwords on most of the pc's that I use to go on the internet but there are only a couple of those, most don't except for Boinc stuff anyway.
If you are talking about Boinc config files, I've never done that, although this go around I do plan on learning how. I've always just used the preferences page. So you're right. I should leave notepad in there.
I misspoke about passwords. I do use the same password for crunchers.
Running Boinc on Win7 is no
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Running Boinc on Win7 is no problem.
sfv
Hi Martin, I picked up a
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Hi Martin,
I picked up a copy of Win11Pro. I'm just waiting for the tasks to run out so I can dump the problem child computer and load Windows up.
I had installed Ubuntu 24.04 and it's been nothing but problems. And now the long wait. Somehow Boinc downloaded several days worth of CPU tasks.
This was a factory computer that I installed Ubuntu on.
While I am not the most knowledgeable computer dude, I don't think it was anything I did. We'll just have to wait until the tasks run out. I'm not willing, so far, to abort the remainder and make the servers start over on them.
Phil
Phil
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Question for all you Windows
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Question for all you Windows gurus out there.
I would never install something like Norton or McAfee on any computer, but do any of you find it necessary these days to run Defender or something on your crunchers?
If so, any info on how it would affect production?
Phil
Phil
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Phil: lot of persons say
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Phil:
lot of persons say that Windows Defender is good enough for every day use.
Depends where you travel in the Internet.
I use BitDefender, but I'm not sure if I really need it since it has never given an alarm.
Except for expired certificates.
Windows Defender (not BitDefender) is always active and is updated regularly.
Do a search in the internet to get some opinions - but I'm sure you already did that.
sfv
San-Fernando-Valley
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I should have been more specific.
I use only Macs for personal use. My question was specifically for computers for crunching. My research is telling me to agree with you. Once you wade thru all the doomsayers and buy me buy me types, Defender is just fine considering these computers will be for Einstein@Home only.
Thank you, and I would love to hear more opinions on this.
Phil
Phil
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Over time MS has had some
)
Over time MS has had some VERY bad ratings on it's a/v software even after they bought a good one they had bad rarings, BUT the last few years they have been rated #1, 2 or 3 which includes the pay ones so I pay for an a/v, ESET, on my laptop, one of my desktops and my sons laptop so he can worry about getting his Masters Degree not paying for an a/v. I always get reports on my pc's saying nothing has gotten thru so far, knock on wood, and right now I have 12 pc's running without a paid for a/v. including my linux ones, YES I run the MS default a/v on my Windows pc's that don't have ESET.
Phil wrote:I use only Macs
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I switched to Windows after 30 years with Apple. You are fine with windows out of the box.
If you crunch only, and don't even install an e-mail client and other software going online the risk is extremely small.
Yes there always is the theoretical chance of being hit by a zero day exploit but that's something most never experience in their lifetime. And nothing protects you against that anyway. What's the worst case? You re-install windows and boinc, that's not too much work. If you are paranoid don't mount any storage of your Apple on the windows machine but access the windows machine from your mac in case you do want to transfer files over the network.
And don't use the same system passowords for your Windows and Apple computers.
That's it.
B.I.G wrote: Phil wrote:I
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Good advice.
The first thing I do on any cruncher is strip every unneeded piece of software out of it. They don't have email, not even Notepad, lol.
Every single machine and app has a unique password.
Thanks for the input.
Phil
Phil
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Phil wrote: B.I.G
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How do you edit the various config files then? It would be a pain in the neck to do it on another pc and copy it over every time. I use the same password for 99% of my pc's as they are JUST crunchers, I use unique passwords on most of the pc's that I use to go on the internet but there are only a couple of those, most don't except for Boinc stuff anyway.
mikey wrote: Phil
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If you are talking about Boinc config files, I've never done that, although this go around I do plan on learning how. I've always just used the preferences page. So you're right. I should leave notepad in there.
I misspoke about passwords. I do use the same password for crunchers.
Phil
Phil
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.