I do that regularly! 6 people on one bicycle is not that strange? I have three kids of my own, and sometimes there's some additional kids to look after.
My car is not big enough to safely strap them in, my bicycle is!
This bike can safely accommodate 8 children, 6 in front + one on the back in a proper seat + one on the handlebar. 9 people safely on one bicycle! I've got a version that can safely accommodate 5 children though (no handlebar seat installed). Not like in your image where I'd be scared that the one on the back will get his foot stuck in the wheel. Or simply fall out if you hit the brake. You can even take a load of groceries with you while being packed with children.
I know there are cars that have 7 seats, but I currently do not have one of those, and even if I did, in the city it's far easier and cheaper to go places by bicycle then it is by car.
That tricycle looks inherently dangerous to me. The average weight of a 5 year old child is 44lbs. 6 of them = 264 lbs or 120 kg, without the weight or the seats. Average weight of an adult is 167lbs or 76Kg. Now work out where the C of G is. If the front brakes were applied in an emergency the whole lot would tip forward. No way would that be allowed on the road in the UK.
Secondly, that is going back to the 1900's and tradesman's delivery bikes.
It would be socially unacceptable here for people to allow their kids to be trundled around like so many legs of lamb. But in a country where all the coffee shops openly sell cannabis legally, I suppose that passes as normal.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Good morning my dear Sir, I trust I find you well, hale, and hearty?
You may learn something.
Oh I most certainly did :-)
it’s called an ‘omafiets’, which translates as ‘grandma bike’,
In other words they all ride women's bikes. Practicality has nothing to do with it. You won't get a man on a bike without a crossbar in the UK. Then again most of the Continent is unisex these days.
This my bike, a Claude Butler Vuelta, a 14 speed racing tourer, with proper rat trap pedals, although mine has toe clips. My one is in blue, but that was the nearest picture I could find.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
That tricycle looks inherently dangerous to me. The average weight of a 5 year old child is 44lbs. 6 of them = 264 lbs or 120 kg, without the weight or the seats. Average weight of an adult is 167lbs or 76Kg. Now work out where the C of G is. If the front brakes were applied in an emergency the whole lot would tip forward. No way would that be allowed on the road in the UK.
Secondly, that is going back to the 1900's and tradesman's delivery bikes.
It would be socially unacceptable here for people to allow their kids to be trundled around like so many legs of lamb. But in a country where all the coffee shops openly sell cannabis legally, I suppose that passes as normal.
Not at all a problem. I have driven the tricycle and tried to brake hard to make it tip forward. Then I am a little heavier but still did not hear anyone else about that problem. The bigger issue is tipping over in a corner, which is why I have a normal variant where there are only two wheels. You need to learn how to ride such bicycles while the ones with 2 wheels feel more natural like any other bike.
My kids are a substantially smaller though. Simply not that old, 44lbs would be for a 6 year old. I've got kids a lot younger then that. The oldest is three and he already cycles himself occasionally, just not fast enough and lacking the endurance for longer ranges (2km+). But since most things are within that 2km he gets to cycle a lot.
Is it normal for British people to come to (wrong) conclusions so fast? You may have your own opinions of course. You can park your car 0.5km away from the stores you wish to visit and walk the rest or take a bicycle and stop at the entrance. The bicycle is also faster because you can drive everywhere, have the advantage of bicycle tunnels, wont have to wait for any traffic light when taking a right turn and don't have to walk in pedestrian/cycling zones. The car is restricted by one-way traffic and walking/cycling zones. Why do you park so far away, simply, no cars in a walking/cycling zone.
The car is also slower in loading and unloading. Not even to mention that when taking a bicycle I generally won't need a pram.
I urge you to reconsider, not that I care that you'll be on route longer, waiting for more traffic lights or anything similar, more about the environment. The E-bike has a sufficient range for most applications and has a way smaller footprint for the environment and is far from the 1900's. Yes I own a car but any km I cycle is one or more not driven in a polluting car.
When traveling to work I also take the bicycle, it's a distance of about 20km where the car is only about 5-10 minutes faster for a single trip in light traffic. In heavy traffic I'm faster on the bicycle, traveling at around 40km/h (E-bike). The electricity consumed is around 7 euro-cents a day. I would not take your bike though, as I'd get rather filthy in rainy weather or even with a wet road.
Is it normal for British people to come to (wrong) conclusions so fast?
You may have your own opinions of course.
Thank you.
have the advantage of bicycle tunnels, wont have to wait for any traffic light when taking a right turn
We do not have bicycle tunnels in the UK. And is that a RH turn in Holland or the UK?
You can park your car 0.5km away from the stores you wish to visit and walk the rest
Most British High Streets only allow disabled parking. So yes, you park in a side road and walk in. Unless you are going to a large supermarket which will usually have it's own car park with shopping trolleys.
The E-bike has a sufficient range for most applications
In heavy traffic I'm faster on the bicycle, traveling at around 40km/h (E-bike).
This is the first time you have mentioned an E-bike or electric bike. Up until now we were discussing pedal powered bicycles and tricycles.
I would not take your bike though, as I'd get rather filthy in rainy weather or even with a wet road.
As I thought I had explained earlier, it is a racing/tourer model. It doesn't bother the Tour de France riders using such a machine in whatever weather. But yes, one could easily fit some plastic mudguards for inclement weather if you wished.
You have to understand that your country's preferred lifestyle would not work in the UK, as it is, many people are already complaining about the proliferation of "Mini-Holland" cycling schemes. Also I doubt if many of your countrymen would want to live over here either. There is no need to justify your country to anyone, I don't justify mine, I just report how it is.
An old phrase is "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". And yes I have been to Amsterdam about 40 years ago, thought it quite a nice if quaint place. Probably much different now.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
If/when I ever buy a car, I'm buying a Volvo 240 DL and turning it into a BOINC car. As of now, I don't know what it's RAC would be. This is purely in the conceptual phase right now.
Also, I'm thinking of strapping a RPi to my bicycle and turning it into a BOINC Bike. Still in hyper-concept phase at the moment as similarly stated above.
Now since we are all human,
Now since we are all human, what would need to happen before you would do the same?
I wouldn't know, your country
I wouldn't know, your country has beaten us to it :-)
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
I do that regularly! 6 people
I do that regularly! 6 people on one bicycle is not that strange? I have three kids of my own, and sometimes there's some additional kids to look after.
My car is not big enough to safely strap them in, my bicycle is!
This bike can safely accommodate 8 children, 6 in front + one on the back in a proper seat + one on the handlebar. 9 people safely on one bicycle! I've got a version that can safely accommodate 5 children though (no handlebar seat installed). Not like in your image where I'd be scared that the one on the back will get his foot stuck in the wheel. Or simply fall out if you hit the brake. You can even take a load of groceries with you while being packed with children.
I know there are cars that have 7 seats, but I currently do not have one of those, and even if I did, in the city it's far easier and cheaper to go places by bicycle then it is by car.
That tricycle looks
That tricycle looks inherently dangerous to me. The average weight of a 5 year old child is 44lbs. 6 of them = 264 lbs or 120 kg, without the weight or the seats. Average weight of an adult is 167lbs or 76Kg. Now work out where the C of G is. If the front brakes were applied in an emergency the whole lot would tip forward. No way would that be allowed on the road in the UK.
Secondly, that is going back to the 1900's and tradesman's delivery bikes.
It would be socially unacceptable here for people to allow their kids to be trundled around like so many legs of lamb. But in a country where all the coffee shops openly sell cannabis legally, I suppose that passes as normal.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Another Englishman's
Another Englishman's perspective, Mr S.
https://dutchbikeguy.wordpress.com/2013/10/22/dutch-bikes-the-many-advantages-they-offer-over-inadequate-british-commuters/.
You may learn something.
Good morning my dear Sir, I
Good morning my dear Sir, I trust I find you well, hale, and hearty?
Oh I most certainly did :-)
In other words they all ride women's bikes. Practicality has nothing to do with it. You won't get a man on a bike without a crossbar in the UK. Then again most of the Continent is unisex these days.
This my bike, a Claude Butler Vuelta, a 14 speed racing tourer, with proper rat trap pedals, although mine has toe clips. My one is in blue, but that was the nearest picture I could find.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Chris S_2 wrote:That tricycle
Not at all a problem. I have driven the tricycle and tried to brake hard to make it tip forward. Then I am a little heavier but still did not hear anyone else about that problem. The bigger issue is tipping over in a corner, which is why I have a normal variant where there are only two wheels. You need to learn how to ride such bicycles while the ones with 2 wheels feel more natural like any other bike.
My kids are a substantially smaller though. Simply not that old, 44lbs would be for a 6 year old. I've got kids a lot younger then that. The oldest is three and he already cycles himself occasionally, just not fast enough and lacking the endurance for longer ranges (2km+). But since most things are within that 2km he gets to cycle a lot.
Is it normal for British people to come to (wrong) conclusions so fast? You may have your own opinions of course. You can park your car 0.5km away from the stores you wish to visit and walk the rest or take a bicycle and stop at the entrance. The bicycle is also faster because you can drive everywhere, have the advantage of bicycle tunnels, wont have to wait for any traffic light when taking a right turn and don't have to walk in pedestrian/cycling zones. The car is restricted by one-way traffic and walking/cycling zones. Why do you park so far away, simply, no cars in a walking/cycling zone.
The car is also slower in loading and unloading. Not even to mention that when taking a bicycle I generally won't need a pram.
I urge you to reconsider, not that I care that you'll be on route longer, waiting for more traffic lights or anything similar, more about the environment. The E-bike has a sufficient range for most applications and has a way smaller footprint for the environment and is far from the 1900's. Yes I own a car but any km I cycle is one or more not driven in a polluting car.
When traveling to work I also take the bicycle, it's a distance of about 20km where the car is only about 5-10 minutes faster for a single trip in light traffic. In heavy traffic I'm faster on the bicycle, traveling at around 40km/h (E-bike). The electricity consumed is around 7 euro-cents a day. I would not take your bike though, as I'd get rather filthy in rainy weather or even with a wet road.
Is it normal for British
Thank you.
We do not have bicycle tunnels in the UK. And is that a RH turn in Holland or the UK?
Most British High Streets only allow disabled parking. So yes, you park in a side road and walk in. Unless you are going to a large supermarket which will usually have it's own car park with shopping trolleys.
This is the first time you have mentioned an E-bike or electric bike. Up until now we were discussing pedal powered bicycles and tricycles.
As I thought I had explained earlier, it is a racing/tourer model. It doesn't bother the Tour de France riders using such a machine in whatever weather. But yes, one could easily fit some plastic mudguards for inclement weather if you wished.
You have to understand that your country's preferred lifestyle would not work in the UK, as it is, many people are already complaining about the proliferation of "Mini-Holland" cycling schemes. Also I doubt if many of your countrymen would want to live over here either. There is no need to justify your country to anyone, I don't justify mine, I just report how it is.
An old phrase is "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". And yes I have been to Amsterdam about 40 years ago, thought it quite a nice if quaint place. Probably much different now.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
If/when I ever buy a car, I'm
If/when I ever buy a car, I'm buying a Volvo 240 DL and turning it into a BOINC car. As of now, I don't know what it's RAC would be. This is purely in the conceptual phase right now.
Also, I'm thinking of
Also, I'm thinking of strapping a RPi to my bicycle and turning it into a BOINC Bike. Still in hyper-concept phase at the moment as similarly stated above.