My house was built with a central gas forced air furnace, to which we later added cooling. It's now on its 3rd furnace and 2nd A/C, always being adapted to fit each other.
There is also a smoke detector in the kitchen, just sitting there, not mounted on the wall or ceiling. It's a component of my alarm system. I also have a CO detector on a shelf near where I sleep. One of those new 10-year non-replaceable-battery units is what I have in mind for the basement. Although I suppose I could check the price of another one for my alarm system. I actually have a greater fear of the house burning down while I'm away than while I'm home.
Much of America has natural gas, but where it's not available you either have propane or all electric. Ask This Old House a couple weeks ago visited Alaska where the homeowner wanted a backup generator in case the power goes out in the winter, but he didn't want a built-in natural gas unit because the gas could also go out after an earthquake. They set him up with a manual transfer switch and a portable gasoline generator to plug it into.
A few minutes ago, I heard what sounded like a big wind gust against the front of the house and at the same moment there was a power dip, noticeable but not enough to turn off the TV. That's happened more in the last 4 weeks than in the last 4 years.
There are tornado watches to the west of me and severe thunderstorm warnings to the north.
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David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
I am so fortunate that where I live there are no tornado's, earthquakes, floodings or severe storms. There's enough rain for the land to be fertile and also enough nice weather to not long for another place.
And don't forget the toasting of marshmallows :-)) Drawback is cleaning the cold ashes out in the morning!
And they can be SOOOO inefficient!! If you don't have a good supply of free wood those things can be very expensive to run!!
David don't forget that CO2 sinks because it's heavier than air, so keep that CO2 detector below the level of your nose when you are snoozing or you may not wake up if there's a problem. This despite the rule in North Carolina that they CAN be , and now often ARE, built into the smoke detectors hanging on the ceilings!! I went out and bought myself a stand alone one that is plugged into an outlet near the floor, and yes it has a battery backup in it.
I live near Myrtle Beach SC so storms etc are a possibility for me, but I used to live near Washington DC and bombs were a possibility there, so I just changed one risk for another. The key for me is that I will normally have time to leave for a bit if a storm comes and then come back after it's gone by, or chose to ride it out if I want too. Bombers don't usually give that much notice, but my dad was in the Air Force and we were always near a possible 'target' anyway, so it was never a 'big' risk for me.
BTW it got into the upper 80's F yesterday but should stay in the low to mid 80's today, tomorrow and Saturday with a chance of some rain coming on Sunday knocking the temps down in the upper 70's. We are in the typical pre-season beach weather here and the weather is very nice!! Night time temps drop down into the upper 60's to low 70's so the a/c is staying on 99% of the time already. It may be cool enough to open the windows but the air is full of moisture and I'm not getting up at 4 am to open the windows because it drops below the inside temp set at 73F!!
And just for those interested my computer room is set at 82F and is maintaining that very nicely right now. The computer room is a part of the house but separated by an insulated wall with no doorway. So I have to go into the garage to get into my computer room.
David don't forget that CO2 sinks because it's heavier than air, so keep that CO2 detector below the level of your nose when you are snoozing or you may not wake up if there's a problem. This despite the rule in North Carolina that they CAN be , and now often ARE, built into the smoke detectors hanging on the ceilings!! I went out and bought myself a stand alone one that is plugged into an outlet near the floor, and yes it has a battery backup in it.
Then you might forget that warm air is lighter then cold air. It also mixes. I guess it's best to follow the instruction manual that comes with the detector :-).
If I'm not mistaken those detectors should be somewhere around a potential source, so they'll be warning you long before those gasses will get to your room.
Or that it is carbon monoxide that we wish to detect. :-)
Cheers, Mike.
Damn it YES of course you're correct!! THAT'S what made the new NC rule so funky, CO sinks but Smoke rises and they mandated that if CO detection is included in the smoke detector then that would satisfy the 'Law' that says a CO Detector must be installed in any home with a CO source in it. My new home came with several Smoke Detectors, but only ONE had CO detection built into it, the one in the Master Bedroom of course that's positioned right over the bed. That's why I added the one, nearer the floor, in the Family Room where the gas fireplace is located.
On the subject of "natural gas" the latest concern in Florida is the use of a corrugated stainless steel tubing also known as CSST. It has been used to plumb gas throughout the attics of new homes. The problem with this method is that Florida is known for a high concentration of lightening strikes and a roof strike can result in total loss. This happened to a house not far from where I live and in another case a young boy lost his life in another region of the US. Of course the manufacturer states that this is not a problem if this product is properly installed. This sort of reminds me of that plumbing material that was installed in the attic a few years back. It reduced the cost of installation but there was a major defect in the pipe couplers which caused them to fail and flood your house. Buyer beware.
And then drinking hot
And then drinking hot chocolate on the coldest of days near a warm fireplace like one of those!
My house was built with a
My house was built with a central gas forced air furnace, to which we later added cooling. It's now on its 3rd furnace and 2nd A/C, always being adapted to fit each other.
There is also a smoke detector in the kitchen, just sitting there, not mounted on the wall or ceiling. It's a component of my alarm system. I also have a CO detector on a shelf near where I sleep. One of those new 10-year non-replaceable-battery units is what I have in mind for the basement. Although I suppose I could check the price of another one for my alarm system. I actually have a greater fear of the house burning down while I'm away than while I'm home.
Much of America has natural gas, but where it's not available you either have propane or all electric. Ask This Old House a couple weeks ago visited Alaska where the homeowner wanted a backup generator in case the power goes out in the winter, but he didn't want a built-in natural gas unit because the gas could also go out after an earthquake. They set him up with a manual transfer switch and a portable gasoline generator to plug it into.
A few minutes ago, I heard what sounded like a big wind gust against the front of the house and at the same moment there was a power dip, noticeable but not enough to turn off the TV. That's happened more in the last 4 weeks than in the last 4 years.
There are tornado watches to the west of me and severe thunderstorm warnings to the north.
<chirp>
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
I am so fortunate that where
I am so fortunate that where I live there are no tornado's, earthquakes, floodings or severe storms. There's enough rain for the land to be fertile and also enough nice weather to not long for another place.
And don't forget the toasting
And don't forget the toasting of marshmallows :-)) Drawback is cleaning the cold ashes out in the morning!
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Chris S_2 wrote:And don't
And they can be SOOOO inefficient!! If you don't have a good supply of free wood those things can be very expensive to run!!
David don't forget that CO2 sinks because it's heavier than air, so keep that CO2 detector below the level of your nose when you are snoozing or you may not wake up if there's a problem. This despite the rule in North Carolina that they CAN be , and now often ARE, built into the smoke detectors hanging on the ceilings!! I went out and bought myself a stand alone one that is plugged into an outlet near the floor, and yes it has a battery backup in it.
I live near Myrtle Beach SC so storms etc are a possibility for me, but I used to live near Washington DC and bombs were a possibility there, so I just changed one risk for another. The key for me is that I will normally have time to leave for a bit if a storm comes and then come back after it's gone by, or chose to ride it out if I want too. Bombers don't usually give that much notice, but my dad was in the Air Force and we were always near a possible 'target' anyway, so it was never a 'big' risk for me.
BTW it got into the upper 80's F yesterday but should stay in the low to mid 80's today, tomorrow and Saturday with a chance of some rain coming on Sunday knocking the temps down in the upper 70's. We are in the typical pre-season beach weather here and the weather is very nice!! Night time temps drop down into the upper 60's to low 70's so the a/c is staying on 99% of the time already. It may be cool enough to open the windows but the air is full of moisture and I'm not getting up at 4 am to open the windows because it drops below the inside temp set at 73F!!
And just for those interested my computer room is set at 82F and is maintaining that very nicely right now. The computer room is a part of the house but separated by an insulated wall with no doorway. So I have to go into the garage to get into my computer room.
Quote:David don't forget that
Then you might forget that warm air is lighter then cold air. It also mixes. I guess it's best to follow the instruction manual that comes with the detector :-).
If I'm not mistaken those detectors should be somewhere around a potential source, so they'll be warning you long before those gasses will get to your room.
Or that it is carbon monoxide
Or that it is carbon monoxide that we wish to detect. :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
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Mike Hewson wrote:Or that it
Both can be deadly. Probably need a detector for each?
I have smoke detectors and CO detector.
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Mike Hewson wrote:Or that it
Damn it YES of course you're correct!! THAT'S what made the new NC rule so funky, CO sinks but Smoke rises and they mandated that if CO detection is included in the smoke detector then that would satisfy the 'Law' that says a CO Detector must be installed in any home with a CO source in it. My new home came with several Smoke Detectors, but only ONE had CO detection built into it, the one in the Master Bedroom of course that's positioned right over the bed. That's why I added the one, nearer the floor, in the Family Room where the gas fireplace is located.
On the subject of "natural
On the subject of "natural gas" the latest concern in Florida is the use of a corrugated stainless steel tubing also known as CSST. It has been used to plumb gas throughout the attics of new homes. The problem with this method is that Florida is known for a high concentration of lightening strikes and a roof strike can result in total loss. This happened to a house not far from where I live and in another case a young boy lost his life in another region of the US. Of course the manufacturer states that this is not a problem if this product is properly installed. This sort of reminds me of that plumbing material that was installed in the attic a few years back. It reduced the cost of installation but there was a major defect in the pipe couplers which caused them to fail and flood your house. Buyer beware.