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tullio
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RE: Sorry, but no you

Message 69884 in response to message 69883

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Sorry, but no you haven't :).

To bring it to its limits you need to purchase (eg on ebay) a PIII Katmai 600MHz slot 1 processor, which should be very cheap these days. You can simply unplug the PII Deschutes and directly replace it with the PIII Katmai. You may need to reflash your BIOS and you will probably need to check motherboard switch settings because of the speed change from 400 to 600. Your motherboard manual will tell you all about that.

Your grandson will appreciate the considerable performance increase :).


My board is an Intel SE440BX with board revision AA695197-405
My PHOENIX BIOS is 4S4EB0X1.86A.0025.P09
According to the Intel manual I downloaded this does not support the Pentium III and since the system is up and working both with WIN98SE for Flight Simulator and SuSE Linux 10.1 for everything else I shall leave it as it is. I shall be rather busy transferring all my programs on the Opteron box, where I shall recompile many tools which I downloaded in source code. But thanks anyway for your suggestions.
Tullio
PS The CPU is in a cartridge on Slot 1.

Gary Roberts
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RE: My board is an Intel

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My board is an Intel SE440BX with board revision AA695197-405
My PHOENIX BIOS is 4S4EB0X1.86A.0025.P09

Sounds fine

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According to the Intel manual I downloaded this does not support the Pentium III ...

Of course it wont say that it supports a PIII because PIIIs didn't exist when the manual was written :). But here's a tip for you to consider. The PII Deschutes slot 1 cartridge is 100% compatible with the PIII Katmai slot 1 cartrige so if you just replace the cartridge you cannot do any damage and you are just about 100% guaranteed that the new processor will boot perhaps with a complaint about missing microcode or unknown CPU but it WILL boot. There will be no problem for any software you already have installed on the system. I've done this very upgrade several times on a number of different motherboards and haven't seen a single case where the upgrade didn't work. I'm not saying such a case doesn't exist and if you were unlucky enough to have a non-booting system you would just put the old processor back and all would be well. You cant damage anything just by trying :).

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PS The CPU is in a cartridge on Slot 1.

Yes, that why I mentioned a slot 1 Katmai in my previous message.

I'd like your grandson to have a faster machine so here is an alternative suggestion for you to consider. If your grandson is a chip off the old block (roughly translated that means if he is as smart as you) then why don't you let him play with the PII for a bit until he gets the feel of a dual booting system and then go to a computer auction and for about 30 euros or so, buy him a complete PIII desktop box with a Tualatin PIII (1133MHz or 1266MHz) or a Tualatin Celeron (1300MHz). Such a box should come with at least 256MB RAM and a 20GB HDD. Then hand him the install CDs for both Win98SE and Linux and tell him to go install a dual booting setup on his new toy :). Kids these days are amazingly adaptive when presented with a challenge and whilst he might need some pointers from his computer savvy grandfather you might be surprised at what he might work out for himself. Such a system would be three times faster than your old PII :).

Cheers,
Gary.

tullio
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This alternative sounds

This alternative sounds reasonable, thanks. I am a follower of the school "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and the PII can be a useful learning tool for a six years old boy. Meanwhile I can learn to drive the new car with the Opteron engine. Cheers.
Tullio

Akos Fekete
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RE: RE: RE: I think, it

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I think, it will be a bit less than 300...

34% : 77 hours

65% : 145 hours


90% : 200 hours

Donald A. Tevault
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RE: RE: RE: RE: I

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I think, it will be a bit less than 300...

34% : 77 hours

65% : 145 hours

90% : 200 hours

Ah, yes. Nothing like that blazingly fast, 350nm technology!

Akos Fekete
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RE: RE: RE: RE: I

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I think, it will be a bit less than 300...

34% : 77 hours

65% : 145 hours

90% : 200 hours


100%: 223 hours
(803,075.41 sec)

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Quote

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I think, it will be a bit less than 300...

34% : 77 hours

65% : 145 hours

90% : 200 hours

100%: 223 hours
(803,075.41 sec)

Hi Akos!

Congrats!!

now, I understand this was one of the extra fast, first generation 800+Hz workunits, I guess the new ones should take up to twice as long, so even with the extended deadline it will be a close call with this vintage CPU. Unless you do some x87 FPU low level optimization :-)

CU

H-B

Gary Roberts
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Phew!! Now that the very

Phew!!

Now that the very last of those rogue results are back, Bernd will at last be able to fire up the S5R3b WU generator ;) :).

Cheers,
Gary.

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Here's another "old" one...

Message 69892 in response to message 69891

Here's another "old" one... HP (DEC) Alpha EV67

It's an AlphaDS10@600MHz running linux.
WU progress 3,746% after 1h52 min...

Crunch3r
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RE: Here's another "old"

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Here's another "old" one... HP (DEC) Alpha EV67

It's an AlphaDS10@600MHz running linux.
WU progress 3,746% after 1h52 min...

First WU done in 176,809.78 sec...

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