reduced crunching time

Gray Handcock
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Hello all

Just a short note - been trying out various assorted Linuxes after Billy Gates licence for XP kicked in - and a buddy mentioned Damn Small Linux - it's a 50 meg download, giving you a live CD with GUI, and which can be installed (I suggest Debian-type install, and Lilo as the boot manager if you want to dual boot with XP).

The crux of the matter is that with a seriously clean optimised XP (22 services, including BOINC client and Manager, Zonealarm and NOD32 antivirus), but no overclocking on my lil 2.6 Intel gave me one WU every 9 hours and 15 minutes. If I closed down the protection I got a WU every 8.45 hours. I installed Damn Small Linux and got 8,05 hours, inclusive of me playing music and surfing. - if you have 500 megs of space it might be worth a go.

Gray

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reduced crunching time

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Hello all

Just a short note - been trying out various assorted Linuxes after Billy Gates licence for XP kicked in - and a buddy mentioned Damn Small Linux - it's a 50 meg download, giving you a live CD with GUI, and which can be installed (I suggest Debian-type install, and Lilo as the boot manager if you want to dual boot with XP).

The crux of the matter is that with a seriously clean optimised XP (22 services, including BOINC client and Manager, Zonealarm and NOD32 antivirus), but no overclocking on my lil 2.6 Intel gave me one WU every 9 hours and 15 minutes. If I closed down the protection I got a WU every 8.45 hours. I installed Damn Small Linux and got 8,05 hours, inclusive of me playing music and surfing. - if you have 500 megs of space it might be worth a go.

Gray

Gray,

I am not really "into" the speed thing and I don't know much about the differences in various processors, etc. - but, given what you just posted, something just doesn't make sense. That is my 1.8GHz laptop Win XP Pro with all the bells and whistles installed is turning around WU's about as fast as you are. I am definitely not overclocking and I am also running the Beta app (Einstein 0.18) which allegedly is 10% slower. Don't know what I'm doing right or what you are doing wrong, but I would think your 2.6GHz should be beating my turnaround times by at least 2 hours.

Stick

EDIT: I am sure you are aware of the various threads here regarding "overheating" issues - but, could overheating be an issue for you?

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RE: RE: Hello all Just a

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Hello all

Just a short note - been trying out various assorted Linuxes after Billy Gates licence for XP kicked in - and a buddy mentioned Damn Small Linux - it's a 50 meg download, giving you a live CD with GUI, and which can be installed (I suggest Debian-type install, and Lilo as the boot manager if you want to dual boot with XP).

The crux of the matter is that with a seriously clean optimised XP (22 services, including BOINC client and Manager, Zonealarm and NOD32 antivirus), but no overclocking on my lil 2.6 Intel gave me one WU every 9 hours and 15 minutes. If I closed down the protection I got a WU every 8.45 hours. I installed Damn Small Linux and got 8,05 hours, inclusive of me playing music and surfing. - if you have 500 megs of space it might be worth a go.

Gray

Gray,

I am not really "into" the speed thing and I don't know much about the differences in various processors, etc. - but, given what you just posted, something just doesn't make sense. That is my 1.8GHz laptop Win XP Pro with all the bells and whistles installed is turning around WU's about as fast as you are. I am definitely not overclocking and I am also running the Beta app (Einstein 0.18) which allegedly is 10% slower. Don't know what I'm doing right or what you are doing wrong, but I would think your 2.6GHz should be beating my turnaround times by at least 2 hours.

Stick

EDIT: I am sure you are aware of the various threads here regarding "overheating" issues - but, could overheating be an issue for you?

Hello Stick - I might have suspected overheating but, when last I checked the asus probe which works for my mb, I have seen a max cpu of 47 deg C (with Einstein running), which is still within safety margins. I'm using my last available install of XP Home (before I need to buy a new licence) and as far as I know I have done nothing unusual, and the times quoted are what I get when the PC is left to play happily while I'm at work. PCs come in such a wide variety that it is just possible that your assorted PC parts work very well together, or maybe what I have is slightly out of kilter. I have plenty of RAM (768) both sticks of which are the same type and make.

I guess if anyone is running similar hardware (Intel Pentium 2.6 with asus mb, 768 of ram) I would appreciate knowing what they are taking per WU.

I do know that a buddy with a 2.4 celeron is a couple of clicks slower than me, so I don't think there's much wrong here - maybe just slight incompatability as I said.

Cheers - Gray

(edit) Just wondering if you are running an AMD cpu there, Stick: from what I have read AMD cpus give a great deal better performance with Einstein than Intel

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RE: Just wondering if you

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Just wondering if you are running an AMD cpu there, Stick: from what I have read AMD cpus give a great deal better performance with Einstein than Intel

Stick appears to be running a 1.8 Ghz Pentium M (mobile). That type of Pentium seems to do much better on Einstein than most supposedly faster Pentiums.

I run an AMD XP 2600 (2.08 Ghz) that crunches an Einstein WU in 6h 15m to 6h 25m on average.

I also have an Athlon 1333 which crunches in 9h 45m to 10h; an XP 1600 that crunches in 9h 20m or so, and an XP 1700 that crunches in 8h 50m when my daughter isn't going hot an heavy on WOW.

Seti Classic Final Total: 11446 WU.

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My AMD aathlon 64, 3500+ w/

My AMD aathlon 64, 3500+ w/ 512 cache seems to be about 6 hours ...

My P4s and Xeons are in the 10-12 hour range. Of course, they are doing 2 or 4 work units at a time, so that is comparable.

Best of all is my G5 which seems to be less than 5 hours per ...

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My observations are a bit

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My observations are a bit different :

AthlonXP 3000+ (2166MHz, Linux 2.6.3-7mdk)
7h 05m
AthlonXP 3000+ (2166MHz, Win2000 SP4)
5h 55m

(both Systems running with comparable platform performance, e.g. Chipset / RAM)

AthlonXP 2600+ (2083MHz, Linux 2.6.3-7mdk)
7h 23m

From all I can tell, at least AMD Systems run a good 15% faster with the Windows Client than my Linux setups (matches up with what I had with older E@H Project Clients and Win32 vs. Linux)

Since I have only two Win32 Systems remaining however, certainly not representative...

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RE: My observations are a

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My observations are a bit different :

AthlonXP 3000+ (2166MHz, Linux 2.6.3-7mdk)
7h 05m
AthlonXP 3000+ (2166MHz, Win2000 SP4)
5h 55m

(both Systems running with comparable platform performance, e.g. Chipset / RAM)

AthlonXP 2600+ (2083MHz, Linux 2.6.3-7mdk)
7h 23m

From all I can tell, at least AMD Systems run a good 15% faster with the Windows Client than my Linux setups (matches up with what I had with older E@H Project Clients and Win32 vs. Linux)

Since I have only two Win32 Systems remaining however, certainly not representative...

Hello

I think I should emphasize here my usage of Damn Small Linux for my most recent Einstein benchmarks: 8 hours, 5 min - originally designed as a 50 meg live CD, but installable onto a hard drive. Quite frankly I have never had such a responsive system, which would explain the reduction in crunching time. Also even when I had SUSE 9.3 installed I was only running around 4 processes, as compared to XP Home where I had dumped anything not directly connected to a functional machine and still had 18 processes (Zonealarm and an Antivirus included here) hence while SUSE 9.3 was a slow box by Linux standards, it still seemed to work around half an hour faster per WU. Damn Small was another half-an-hour better than that. My only issue with Damn Small was security (I had 5 ports open out of the 65 000 or so) but as soon as my adsl router comes online I'll go back to using it and get Einstein an extra couple of hours a day !!

Gray

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Greetings everyone, I was

Greetings everyone, I was wondering, maybe this is not the correct
place to post. I'm using my new iMac G5 1 PowerMac8 processor, 768MB
of RAM...bench results 884 Whet. 2788 Dhry. Can someone tell me if
they're decent benchmarks for my machine? I was fortunate to receive
one of the new Albert WU's. Looks like I can complete an Albert WU
in about 8 hours....everything running smooth here.

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RE: Greetings everyone, I

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Greetings everyone, I was wondering, maybe this is not the correct place to post.

Good as any!

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I'm using my new iMac G5 1 PowerMac8 processor, 768MB of RAM...bench results 884 Whet. 2788 Dhry. Can someone tell me if they're decent benchmarks for my machine?

G5's benchmark a bit "low" for Einstein. If you find after a reasonable number of results that you're always the 'lowest claimed credit' in your quorum, you might consider looking at one of Team MacNN's optimized BOINC clients. They aren't all that "easy to install" on the Mac unless you get the whole package there (which may or may not be what you want) but it can be done - just ask somewhere around here for the details.

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I was fortunate to receive one of the new Albert WU's. Looks like I can complete an Albert WU in about 8 hours....everything running smooth here.

I think the Albert WUs will vary in time quite a bit, where the old ones were _very_ consistent, running right at 8 hours on my Mac Mini. I would guess that 8 hours will be the "long" ones for Albert WUs on a G5.

xi3piscium
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Just installed superbench

Just installed superbench 5.2.13 for Mac OS X
Whet. 4211
Dhry. 14175

Incredible!!!!

May I ask if I'll be compromising credits for faster crunch
times? crunch times have been cut in half.

Paul D. Buck
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RE: May I ask if I'll be

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May I ask if I'll be compromising credits for faster crunch
times? crunch times have been cut in half.


No.

The individual request/claim will be lower, but you will ask for more of them ...

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