Question; Hope it's not dumb.

Paul D. Buck
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Though, if not computer

Though, if not computer literate, then, Apple is a slightly better choice ... :)

The Top of the line PowerMac is always priced at $2,999.00 and you can get a roughly comparable (speed wise) PC for the same money. But he MAc stuff is slightly higher priced.

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RE: Hello. You three

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Hello.

You three sound like you're on top of the whole spectrum of current computers, so you may be the best group to ask this:

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question.
(Not to be too formal, it's just the way I was raised)

My daughter recently graduated from college with a degree in Graphical Arts. She has been dropping some seriously heavy hints that to get a good job in this current down-turned economy she needs to be able to compete with the other applicants out there and the only way she can do that is if some nice old guy buys her a Macintosh. (meaning a new one I'm sure...)

I told her she could have my old Compaq (AMD 750 Mhz) and she made a face...

Now my question is: Is Apple really that superior a grahics machine compared to Intel? I have been playing with Knopppix a bit and it occurred to me that I could probably get a Linux distrub from the internet and load this ol' Win/ME system with that and a new graphics card and it MUST be as good as any Mac would be.

Is she right? i haven't any experience with Apple and only know what I read. (That and when I was forcing everyone back in the early 80's to allow an IBM PC
on their sacred desks they all referred to it as an "Apple.")

Either way she is gonna have to wait a bit for her prospective gift as her sister just made fly to Hawaii for her wedding. (Made me - hahhahahaha!)

No such thing as a dumb question when it comes to picking a computer. This question can be answered by asking the question "What is planning to do with this machine?" If your daughter is looking to do animation she might be waiting for days or weeks for rendering on your AMD 750. If she's looking to do simple sketching the AMD might be enough.

I have a friend in my user group who is a professional photographer and does some very heavy animations. He has a 3.2 Ghz P4 with 4G ram and 1 terabyte of drive space and he still takes days to render animations. However I am certain he could be doing his work on a dual G5 Apple as well.

To help answer the question I would look for the applications to run and then find the appropriate hardware. PC or Apple.

Hope this helps
Brian

Paul D. Buck
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Oh, I just had a thought

Oh, I just had a thought about the cost, the 23 INCH monitor was 3K just by itself ... plus AV software and the like is what drove the price up ...

Remember, most people use 17 inch monitors (I have been 20" or better for 15 years now ... never look back).

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Hey Everybody, Good to hear

Hey Everybody,
Good to hear from you all. Good point about letting the Application determine the type of "system". For me Photoshop is the driving force. The key-strokes are the same.

The output is determine by the calibration of your monitor, and printer. I have seen very good systems, that would output some really bad images. It sometime isn't the tool...but the craftsman using the tool.

I'm glade that I have all these craftsman to learn from.

Greg

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First of all: thank you

First of all: thank you gentlemen for answering my question! Before I go any further I just have to remind you I have a daughter with a college degree! If you don't know what that means I'm afraid I shall have to teach you.

Well I asked her about what particular progam she was trying to run and I got a lecture about computers. Apparently (sigh) it doesn't matter what program you're trying to run if you're running it on a MAC! You see, Dad, a MAC is a "serious business machine" and all the pretty programs run better on it than they do on any "PC" machine. In fact, she rattled off about a dozen programs that I know for a fact run on Intel computers as if only a "MAC" person would have any idea what she was talking about.

Well I don't want to burden you guys with my daughter so suffice to say I got the answer to my question which was: Why do you have a college degree and still can't find a job? I guess you just have to know her but I will impart to the young men whom I'm sure are reading this that what she expects is some "man" to do what she doesn't seem to think is important and just "give" me a job.

Anyway, she's 24 years old and I'm sure she'll sort this out. But - back to topic: she's gonna have to find someone else who'll buy her her "MAC" (and then,of course, get it to run for her...)

one more time: Thank you genlemen for your time and expertise.

(On a side note: does any one have a son with a little too much money who wouldn't mind listening to a girl lecture him on computers? I'm kidding - I really do love her more than she is willing to admit. ahhhh, kids!)

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RE: You see, Dad, a MAC is

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You see, Dad, a MAC is a "serious business machine" and all the pretty programs run better on it than they do on any "PC" machine.


HeHe... Yeah, that's why all the heavy accounting and inventory control software aren't on Mac... ;)

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Hi thaumielx72, In the

Hi thaumielx72,
In the Graphic Arts community...the Mac is the base for all that they do. I have two family members who have BA's in Graphic Arts, both work for Sony Studios in Culver City.

In my photography...I also felt the pressure to go Mac. I choose the PC at the time to the Mac because I could install the system the way I wanted it(more or less). Since I only run Photoshop...well I can do alot more for a lot less.

I don't know if you paid for her college, but if you did...a Mac is a small price to pay to tie up a degree. Since most schools of Graphic Arts has a portfolio review as part of the grad processes, it would stand to reason that she will make good use of the machine.

Greg

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Most programs do run on both

Most programs do run on both platforms, so, a lot depends on price and convienince. As a work station I would not like to give up my PowerMac as it is a joy to work with. Multi-tasking is super smooth. I run BOINC and all other programs like my iTunes and never skip a beat ...

I have far more troubles with the PC and Windows, though the bulk of my comptuers are Windows based machines ... though if things work out this year I will be trying out a Lunix install on one of my machines as I recycle it ...

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