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Tom M
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Quote:I thought the Win 10

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I thought the Win 10 free upgrade had stopped?

Officially yes.  But if you have commercial product code for Win7/Win8 you can use it to install Win10.

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Quote:Quote:Peter Hucker

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Peter Hucker wrote:

mikey wrote:
I actually get an electric golf cart in the garage, no cars so no fumes anyway.

You said earlier, "The door is a sealed door because it's physically inside the garage and needs to be in case the car is running so no exhaust gases get into the room."

The door has a gasket to seal out exhaust gases in case I run a car in there, I keep my golf cart in there, and alot of other stuff so there's no room for the cars, they stay outside on the driveway.

mikey wrote:
Yup mine too, that's the Win7 disks I still have and they still work the same way as before.

I thought the Win 10 free upgrade had stopped?

No not if you know what you are doing...ie use the disabilities features and you can still update for free if you choose too.

mikey wrote:
I'm thinking of swapping them all back to Win7 and be done with them.

I see no advantage of 7 over 10, just a higher chance of crashes etc.

Win10 is slowing them down with all the crap they are loading and the new 'features' I have no need of ie Skype and other stuff. Win10 also messes with my VNC stuff and after some updates I can't get to my pc's anymore because they change stuff to do with networking.

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mikey wrote:No not if you

mikey wrote:
No not if you know what you are doing...ie use the disabilities features and you can still update for free if you choose too.

Ah, I just used the other way :-)

mikey wrote:
Win10 is slowing them down with all the crap they are loading and the new 'features' I have no need of ie Skype and other stuff. Win10 also messes with my VNC stuff and after some updates I can't get to my pc's anymore because they change stuff to do with networking.

I don't get problems here.  Occasionally I'll spot a Skype or something loaded without asking me, I just remove it from the startup programs list.  Compared to the amount of disk, RAM, CPU, etc that Boinc uses, Windows doesn't have much effect.  Ever tried loading 24 virtual machines at once for LHC theory tasks using an old 80GB rust spinner?

If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.

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Peter Hucker wrote: mikey

Peter Hucker wrote:

mikey wrote:
Win10 is slowing them down with all the crap they are loading and the new 'features' I have no need of ie Skype and other stuff. Win10 also messes with my VNC stuff and after some updates I can't get to my pc's anymore because they change stuff to do with networking.

I don't get problems here.  Occasionally I'll spot a Skype or something loaded without asking me, I just remove it from the startup programs list.  Compared to the amount of disk, RAM, CPU, etc that Boinc uses, Windows doesn't have much effect.  Ever tried loading 24 virtual machines at once for LHC theory tasks using an old 80GB rust spinner? 

Along time ago I went to SSD drives for every pc when 120gb drives were cheap, then went to 240gb drives when Wndows was filling up the 120's so I have alot of SSD drives here so loading things goes pretty guickly for me. I also don't use virtual machines at all unless Boinc does it as part of it's programming. I also still have a box full of old platter type sata and ide drives that I use for testing just so I don't over use the ssd drives by loading an OS and then wiping it too often.

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mikey wrote: Along time ago

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Along time ago I went to SSD drives for every pc when 120gb drives were cheap, then went to 240gb drives when Wndows was filling up the 120's so I have alot of SSD drives here so loading things goes pretty guickly for me. I also don't use virtual machines at all unless Boinc does it as part of it's programming. I also still have a box full of old platter type sata and ide drives that I use for testing just so I don't over use the ssd drives by loading an OS and then wiping it too often.

I only use SSDs when I need to.  I don't like throwing things out, so Boinc machines that run 24/7 use up the old rotary drives.  Once everything has loaded they're fine, the machines have plenty RAM so everything is buffered and cached.  Not sure how you filled up a 120, or do you mean a machine that does something else?  The 80GB here runs a 24 core machine with one GPU on Windows 10 and Boinc and nothing else.  Only 50GB is used.  Yes the virtual machines here are just Boinc LHC ones, it does it itself.  But they do use a lot of disk activity to get going.  Only a problem when I reboot the machine as all 24 load at once, it can take twenty minutes to settle down.  I threw out IDE, that's too old.  And SSDs don't wear out, I looked that up when I saw Einstein writing continuously to my SSD, and it was a negligible part of its life.

If this page takes an hour to load, reduce posts per page to 20 in your settings, then the tinpot 486 Einstein uses can handle it.

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Peter Hucker wrote: mikey

Peter Hucker wrote:

mikey wrote:

Along time ago I went to SSD drives for every pc when 120gb drives were cheap, then went to 240gb drives when Wndows was filling up the 120's so I have alot of SSD drives here so loading things goes pretty guickly for me. I also don't use virtual machines at all unless Boinc does it as part of it's programming. I also still have a box full of old platter type sata and ide drives that I use for testing just so I don't over use the ssd drives by loading an OS and then wiping it too often.

I only use SSDs when I need to.  I don't like throwing things out, so Boinc machines that run 24/7 use up the old rotary drives.  Once everything has loaded they're fine, the machines have plenty RAM so everything is buffered and cached.  Not sure how you filled up a 120, or do you mean a machine that does something else?  The 80GB here runs a 24 core machine with one GPU on Windows 10 and Boinc and nothing else.  Only 50GB is used.  Yes the virtual machines here are just Boinc LHC ones, it does it itself.  But they do use a lot of disk activity to get going.  Only a problem when I reboot the machine as all 24 load at once, it can take twenty minutes to settle down.  I threw out IDE, that's too old.  And SSDs don't wear out, I looked that up when I saw Einstein writing continuously to my SSD, and it was a negligible part of its life. 

I have no idea what happened to fill them up but it sure did. I THINK it was Windows10 update files that just didn't get deleted.

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mikey wrote: I have no idea

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I have no idea what happened to fill them up but it sure did. I THINK it was Windows10 update files that just didn't get deleted.

My 5 Boinc only machines were a fresh Windows 10 install, all the updates, AVG, Malwarebytes, Boinc (5 projects).  I've never done any housekeeping like deleting update files, although I have removed loads from this main machine which I use for everything.

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Peter Hucker wrote: mikey

Peter Hucker wrote:

mikey wrote:

I have no idea what happened to fill them up but it sure did. I THINK it was Windows10 update files that just didn't get deleted.

My 5 Boinc only machines were a fresh Windows 10 install, all the updates, AVG, Malwarebytes, Boinc (5 projects).  I've never done any housekeeping like deleting update files, although I have removed loads from this main machine which I use for everything. 

As I said no clue but they filled up to the point that the multiple pc's had major problems with drive space on a 120gb drive. I have wiped all of the drives now so it doesn't matter to me anymore about the why or the how it is history to me.

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mikey wrote: As I said no

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As I said no clue but they filled up to the point that the multiple pc's had major problems with drive space on a 120gb drive. I have wiped all of the drives now so it doesn't matter to me anymore about the why or the how it is history to me.

If I run out of space, I use the Windows 10 built in "disk clean up", including the system files option.  Then I use treesize freeware to show me where the most space is used.  It lists all your folders on the entire drive in a tree, with the percentage use in a bar graph.  I go through the largest ones and delete stuff I don't need.

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Peter Hucker wrote: mikey

Peter Hucker wrote:

mikey wrote:

As I said no clue but they filled up to the point that the multiple pc's had major problems with drive space on a 120gb drive. I have wiped all of the drives now so it doesn't matter to me anymore about the why or the how it is history to me.

If I run out of space, I use the Windows 10 built in "disk clean up", including the system files option.  Then I use treesize freeware to show me where the most space is used.  It lists all your folders on the entire drive in a tree, with the percentage use in a bar graph.  I go through the largest ones and delete stuff I don't need. 

As I said it was Windows stuff and I didn't feel comfortable deleting what I had no clue was so I just got a bigger drive and moved on.

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