Gamma-ray pulsar search #1 v0.22

Michael Becker
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the credits for the new

the credits for the new "Gamma-ray pulsar search #1 v0.22" ar very poor.

WU 102168712 42,251.47s 42,010.76s 261.58Cc 250.00Gc
WU 102212301 58,639.03s 58,111.82s 356.38Cc 200.00Gc

funny is that wu's with shorter CPU-time gets more credit

my system computes two "Gravitational Wave S6 GC" wu's in the same time, and get more credit for each.

with this conditions it's senseless to compute it, sorry.
and yes, i read the comment with the credit 'fine tuning'

greets, michael

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
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Hi all, Yes, the crediting

Hi all,

Yes, the crediting of the LAT WUs needs some more fixing.

For those who are preferring to get the GW work units because of the more consistent credits, I suggest that you opt out of the gamma ray pulsar search in the project preferences to avoid this problem. You miss the opportunity to be a co-discoverer of a very rare kind of celestial body, tho. But it's your choice.

CU
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Kim Kaos
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RE: Hi all, Yes, the

Quote:

Hi all,

Yes, the crediting of the LAT WUs needs some more fixing.

For those who are preferring to get the GW work units because of the more consistent credits, I suggest that you opt out of the gamma ray pulsar search in the project preferences to avoid this problem. You miss the opportunity to be a co-discoverer of a very rare kind of celestial body, tho. But it's your choice.

CU
HB

Thats not a fair way to behave - We all belive that all the work has to be shared between us all and we all like to find the wawe some day - We just think that the way the credit is calulated is not the best way to do so.

We are not trying to avoid the hard work for geting some easy earned credit - We do the long time calcs. - We just feel we have to get more for doing so - so dont ask us to leave those part of the project and treat us like we are greedy or so - We just a wish to make the system more fair. So show some more respect - we have deserved that.

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
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I understand, but please also

I understand, but please also try to understand that with a given set of resources (including staff working hours) priorities have to be set and credit fine tuning isn't necessarily the top prio, especially if a work around (choosing a different app) is available. If you prefer the GW WUs, nobody has a problem with this, and nobody will accuse you of anything. Every contribution to the project, for any of the searches and for whatever motivation, is welcome and appreciated equally.

The crediting will be fixed eventually, but until then, please bear with the project staff who have a lot of responsibilities at the moment, including stuff like preparing for the BOINC workshop which will be hosted by the AEI in Hannover next week.

HB

Kim Kaos
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RE: I understand, but

Quote:

I understand, but please also try to understand that with a given set of resources (including staff working hours) priorities have to be set and credit fine tuning isn't necessarily the top prio, especially if a work around (choosing a different app) is available. If you prefer the GW WUs, nobody has a problem with this, and nobody will accuse you of anything. Every contribution to the project, for any of the searches and for whatever motivation, is welcome and appreciated equally.

The crediting will be fixed eventually, but until then, please bear with the project staff who have a lot of responsibilities at the moment, including stuff like preparing for the BOINC workshop which will be hosted by the AEI in Hannover next week.

HB

I have deep respect for the great work you all do for this project - and I dont think anyone of us expect you to reorganize the credit system here and now - but in future we hope you can find the time to make some chances. Thats all.

With respect

Kim Kaos

Michael Becker
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RE: ... You miss the

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... You miss the opportunity to be a co-discoverer of a very rare kind of celestial body, tho. But it's your choice.

CU
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where (whenever) is to read who was a co-discoverer, or did only the co-discoverer knows that he is such a participant?
is it possible to add a info to the printable cert?
is a correction after the erxperimental stage possible?

i think a quick solution is necessary 'cause einstein@home needs our performance

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
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Hi, The LAT search is at a

Hi,

The LAT search is at a very early stage. The scientists will be able to describe the process in more detail, but my educated guess ;-) is that once a candidate is found, this will have to be checked by several means (checks in catalogs, reviews, perhaps re-observations in other spectral bands). But just as was done with the BRP searches, I'm sure eventually the co-discoverers will not only be listed here on the E@H website, but will also be mentioned in the scientific journal articles.

CU
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DanNeely
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RE: RE: ... You miss the

Quote:
Quote:

... You miss the opportunity to be a co-discoverer of a very rare kind of celestial body, tho. But it's your choice.

CU
HB

where (whenever) is to read who was a co-discoverer, or did only the co-discoverer knows that he is such a participant?
is it possible to add a info to the printable cert?
is a correction after the erxperimental stage possible?

i think a quick solution is necessary 'cause einstein@home needs our performance

BRP1-3 credit has been given here: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/radiopulsar/html/rediscovery_page/rediscoveries.html
BRP4 credit has been given here: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/radiopulsar/html/PMPS_discoveries/
More formally for the first discovery of a new pulsar, see note 7 here: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/rapidpdf/science.1195253v1?ijkey=fUmYrDCDRI/K2&keytype=ref&siteid=sci

tullio
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My Opteron 1210 at 1.8 GHz

My Opteron 1210 at 1.8 GHz completed its first gamma-ray unit in 53k s CPU time . A much faster Intel i7 of my wingman took 49k s to do the same validated result. I am using Linux, my wingman Windows 7.
Tullio

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