electric bill
30 Jun 2018 19:16:04 UTC
Topic 215615
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got a real shock 3 days ago. my electric bill jumped almost $60 over the previous month. granted summer is here and so are the dog days of summer but I am thinking I am going to have to take a couple of my units off line until fall/winter returns. don't like to do that but I dont believe I have many options. I am currently rejecting future work on two of the machines and will shut them down when their current work completes. I may have to evaluate further as summer progresses. The real pain is that our winters here in Florida are hovering around the upper 70 to low 80s for the last two years so we don't get much relief then either. Stay tuned.
Given your history I suspect
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Given your history I suspect you are way ahead of me on this, but perhaps others reading your post may wish to review power savings possibilities by employing GPU downclock, GPU power limitation, GPU downvolting, and most of the same for CPUs.
Depending on the details of the hardware (not just model numbers, but the accidental characteristics of the specific chips that found their way to a system) sometimes a new operating point can be found with noticeably less power consumption for a less than proportional loss in performance.
Another point (which your post makes clear you understand) is that it is much more power saving to shut down a system entirely than just to stop running Einstein work on it.
Here in Albuquerque my evaporative coolers surely use far less power than your cooling (I assume some type of refrigerated air), they still push me up in the summer. I thought I was safely below the highest rate increase step in our utility's rate schedule--seems that is true for spring, but not for summer.
I'm going thru the same thing
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I'm going thru the same thing here in NC, I'm just North of Myrtle Beach SC, I have 17 pc's running and last months electric bill was over double my neighbors and we have similar homes etc etc. It hit $700 last month and the wife is not a happy camper, yes I use a/c, I have 2 mini-split systems and keep the room at 82F but when it gets into the 90's and above they tend to run most of the time.
This is an ever present issue
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This is an ever present issue with E@H. It was & is a marvellous saving to the project, purely on account of power costs, some several years ago estimated at $7+ million USD per year. That can only go up with time. The project is incredibly thankful of the personal donations of not just computing resource(s) but also the bearing of running costs by participants. Thank you all ! :-)
For myself with one thing and another in Victoria, Australia, a definite price signal has been applied to deliverable energy for households in recent times. Curiously, for those with a natural gas connection, the rate has risen this year/winter well above traditional increases. A cynic could propose that this is in response to demand flowing from distributed electricity rises ie. a choice between the two modes for household heating. An optimist could claim that such a monetary nudge is long overdue and, at last, consumers are beginning to pay true cost by some measure of merit ( typically upon environmental grounds, but there are many others ). I have always been used to simply wearing warmer clothing as needed - I grew up with that mindset.
FWIW I think it is not just the energy profligacy of certain homes that could be reined in, but there are so many more households c/w my youth. The nearest city to myself is Melbourne which was of a population 1M and change in the 1960's and is now well over 4M today. Australians really don't build much medium to high density residential structures and hence much efficiency of usage and transmission is allowed to slip. People seem to want their personal ( though the bank's in reality ) land space of around a half acre : house plus margin to boundary. Compared to separately titled & individually owned though grouped units ( so called strata arrangements ) there is relatively large radiative surface area to enclosed volume. Aussies have ectomorphic living spaces ! I once owned a double brick house a generation ago. It had excellent insulation properties because of that, the basic trick being a small air gap b/w inner and outer bricked layers ( dramatically cuts heat conduction either way ). It was built in the late 1940s and was an absolute technical masterpiece of building then - and still is. We don't do that now.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
I spoke with my power company
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I spoke with my power company on Monday to confirm that the latest shocking bill was accurate. Of course it was. What was interesting is they directed me to their website. They allow me to monitor my daily consumption and to forecast an end-of-month electric bill. Quite useful. As I proposed earlier I have taken two large towers offline after allowing all WUs to complete. A third unit continues to run. The temp drop in the back room where all 3 are is amazing. You become accustomed to the ambient air temp over time until you "make/force" a change. Then you immediately note how much cooler it is and how your A/C unit is cycling on less frequently. No I do not like my daily numbers with E&H but neither did I like my monthly electric bill. Hopefully by October when temps come down I can bring these two towers back online.
You just reminded me with the
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You just reminded me with the temperature explosion coming in another day it is time to set the rigs to no new tasks so the A/C doesn't blow.
Gary, Based upon your
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Gary,
Based upon your website I assume you are from the LA area. Many years ago I lived in the San Fernando Valley off of Victory Blvd. and I can remember some "broiling" temps out there. I am sure it has not cooled in the years of my absence and like here east of Orlando the only saving grace is I live about a 20 minute walk from the beach so we constantly have a breeze but that does not help the computers. My neighbors installed solar about 3 years ago and are now selling back excess power to the power company. Great!!!!! Unfortunately the company that did the installation is now out of business. Bad!!!! Their panels are installed on their roof which is probably not the best location considering Florida is know for its hurricanes. Nothing is easy.
Yes. Los Angeles Area, just
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Yes. Los Angeles Area, just the other valley, the San Gabriel Valley. Forecast highs over 110 degrees F (44C) for Friday and Saturday. Hasn't gotten any cooler, they keep adding more pavement.
110. Unbelievable!! What
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110. Unbelievable!! What are we to do?
drink fluids and perspire
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drink fluids and perspire
robl wrote:110.
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It got to more, 116. Drink fluids or expire.