Credits

karpio
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Is there any doc with description of credits algorithm? What is the method to compute how many credits user will got?

k.

PS. Please don't answer RTFS ;>

Gary Roberts
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Credits


> PS. Please don't answer RTFS ;>

Why not if it is really the most appropriate answer :).

Alright... How about RTFMB then?

If you go to the main page for the Message Boards and type in the thread title search string of "claimed credit determined" the #1 item returned is an existing thread that will answer your question, including the actual formula that is used (or so it says).

Also in that thread you will find references to the excellent Paul D Buck documentation website which covers you question in great depth.

Why is it that people demand that others write them out their own personalized version of an answer rather than spend 5 seconds and find a number of previously written answers that already do the job superbly??

Cheers,
Gary.

karpio
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> Why is it that people

Message 8305 in response to message 8304

> Why is it that people demand that others write them out their own personalized
> version of an answer rather than spend 5 seconds and find a number of
> previously written answers that already do the job superbly??

You spend more than 5 sec to write your comment instead of right answer, so that's mean that your time is not very important for you. This is the answer why sometimes ppl asked without searching :-) It's easy and simple to ask instead of search and think. If anyone can do something instead of me - please do it :-)

PS. Thanks for your instruction - quite usefull

Paul D. Buck
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> You spend more than 5 sec

Message 8306 in response to message 8305

> You spend more than 5 sec to write your comment instead of right answer, so
> that's mean that your time is not very important for you. This is the answer
> why sometimes ppl asked without searching :-) It's easy and simple to ask
> instead of search and think. If anyone can do something instead of me - please
> do it :-)

Um, well, not quite. Over the last year PLUS we have refined, tested, exampled, distilled, collected, refactored, and written over 700 web pages of material.

This includes nearly 500 FAQ Topics, a documentation page for each and every page on the project web sites and this material more than covers the ground.

Just as an example, your credit question requires the definition of the words:

credit
claimed credit
granted credit
pending credit
cobblestone
reference computer
validation
result
benchmark
total credit
recent average credit
deadline

FAQ topic like:
What's the average processing time per Work Unit?
* What is "Credit"? [en]
(305 views)
* In what ways can credit be calculated? [en]
(229 views)
* Is the BOINC Software going to have a "credit" system. [en]
(40 views)
* Is there any way to make a foolproof credit system? [en]
(32 views)
* Will this new credit system satisfy everyone? [en]
(39 views)
* Why didn't the BOINC project managers listen to the participant population about credit issues? [en]
(57 views)
* What about my credit from the original SETI@Home program? [en]
(95 views)
* Why do we need a credit counting system? [en]
(38 views)
* With all the problems with credit, why not just drop it? [en]
(50 views)
* Do I need to be concerned with my earned credit? [en]
(59 views)
* Did the original SETI@Home have a credit system? [en]
(18 views)
* Why was the credit system not fixed? [en]
(15 views)
* Did anyone stop contributing because of the old credit system? [en]
(16 views)
* Why aren't we going to use the same credit system as the original SETI@Home project? [en]
(15 views)
* What will BOINC's credit system be based upon? [en]
(23 views)
* What are the different types of credit in might be possible with BOINC? [en]
(18 views)
* What is a "reference computer"? [en]
(33 views)
* What are the different types of credit in might be possible with BOINC? [en]
(15 views)
* Now what about this unified accounting? What does it mean to me? [en]
(15 views)
* How is credit calculated in BOINC? [en]
(34 views)
# Come on, can't you give us an idea of how the credit is earned? [en]
(120 views)
# What the heck is a "Cobblestone"? [en]
(25 views)
# Why the name "Cobblestones"? [en]
(17 views)
# Do I have to do anything to get a Cobblestone measurement? [en]
(13 views)
# I just changed some of my computer parts and am not sure if I am getting proper amounts of credit. How can I fix that? [en]
(14 views)
# What does the benchmark do to calculate my Cobblestone rating? [en]
(14 views)
# Can a person "cheat" and get too much credit? [en]
(18 views)
# Why don't I get the full amount of credit I claimed? [en]
(22 views)
# I just processed a bunch or work units. Why I haven't I seen an increase in my granted credit? [en]
(29 views)
# What is "Claimed Credit"?
* What is "Total Credit"? [en]
(15 views)
* What is "Pending Credit"? [en]
(19 views)
* How does "Claimed Credit" get to be "Total Credit"? [en]
(16 views)
* What is "Recent Average Credit"? [en]
(22 views)
* Why are other participants claiming more credit than I am for the same work unit? [en]
(18 views)
* Why is my ""Pending Credit" list so long?
Shouldn't I get credit as soon as I return a work unit? [en]
(21 views)
* Why didn't I get any credit for the processing a work unit? [en]
(14 views)
* I am returning lots of results but never seem to get any credit. Why is this happening? [en]
(18 views)
* What happens if I return a result that is valid but the quorum of results was established by other participants? [en]
(11 views)
* Can I copy other peoples results and submit them to get more credit? [en]
(12 views)
* Why is the "Granted Credit" different than my "Claimed Credit"? [en]
(10 views)
* I've created a new account, can you transfer my old credit to my new account? [en]
(18 views)
* I've created a new account, can you transfer my old credit to my new account? [en]
(12 views)
* Can I cheat by editing my result files? [en]
(14 views)
* You mention quorum rules, what are they? [en]
(11 views)
* What about the credit I earned while doing SETI@Home Classic? [en]
(15 views)
* How will people know that I particpated in the SETI@Home Classic project? [en]
(43 views)
* Can someone DEFINITIVELY say that Work Units returned late will NOT recieve any credit? [en]
(127 views)
* Why is the "Granted Credit" different than my "Claimed Credit"? [en]
(10 views)
* I've created a new account, can you transfer my old credit to my new account? [en]
(18 views)
* I've created a new account, can you transfer my old credit to my new account? [en]
(12 views)
* Can I cheat by editing my result files? [en]
(14 views)
* You mention quorum rules, what are they? [en]
(11 views)
* What about the credit I earned while doing SETI@Home Classic? [en]
(15 views)
* How will people know that I particpated in the SETI@Home Classic project? [en]
(43 views)
* Can someone DEFINITIVELY say that Work Units returned late will NOT recieve any credit? [en]
(127 views)

So, I would say that a complete personal answer would take us some time to do ... and a lot longer than it would take you to at least try to look it up first.

THEN, if you did not understand something we can see if we can answer your question and if needed, add new material or edit the existing material to make it easier to understand.

Gary Roberts
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> > Why is it that people

Message 8307 in response to message 8305

> > Why is it that people demand that others write them out their own
> personalized
> > version of an answer rather than spend 5 seconds and find a number of
> > previously written answers that already do the job superbly??
>
> You spend more than 5 sec to write your comment ...

So what?? My comment was suggesting that you should spend the 5 seconds typing in a simple search string so that dumb sods like me wouldn't need to waste their time repeating something that's already thoroughly documented.

> ... instead of right answer, so

Actually, it was the right answer but I don't think you have the ability to fathom that out for yourself.

> that's mean that your time is not very important for you.

This really convinces me that you don't have a clue. Perhaps you didn't understand so let me spell it out for you. I actually wasn't really replying to you at all!! The wording of your request indicated exactly that you weren't prepared to do anything for yourself. So, I was using your question as a means to promote to others, Paul D Buck's excellent website and to help publicize the message board search function as a way of finding your own information quickly and easily, ie using the accumulated wisdom of the posters rather than letting it rot away. If, as a result of my post, just one other person decides to try out the website or to use the search function instead of asking a useless question, then my time was very profitably spent.

> This is the answer
> why sometimes ppl asked without searching :-) It's easy and simple to ask
> instead of search and think. If anyone can do something instead of me - please
> do it :-)

I think the real answer is just plain old-fashioned lazyness, pure and simple. How you can suggest that it's easier to write a couple of sentences to phrase a question when you could have typed two or three words into a search string, beggars belief!! I wont even touch on the arrogance of demanding that others do your work for you.
>
> PS. Thanks for your instruction - quite usefull

No problems!!

Cheers,
Gary.

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