Cost of Domestic Power....
20 Mar 2011 3:53:31 UTC
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We receivered our Monthly Power Acount on Friday.
789 Units over 29 days with a total cost of NZ$242.92
This does not include Heating, Air Conditioning or Water Heating.
So after Lighting, Cooking, TV, Fridges Etc that just leaves the three Computers.
Here in New Zealand we are paying NZ$0.3078 cents per kWh.
I just wondered how this rate compares around the World.
Cheers
Vaughan
Cost of Domestic Power....
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I am paying 19 eurocents/kWh. Don't know the amount in NZ currency.
Tullio
~12.5 us cents/kwh for coal,
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~12.5 us cents/kwh for coal, with the option to pretend I'm green by paying an extra 2.5c/kwh to subsidize wind power. The pretend comment is principally due to laws requiring the incumbent (coal) providers to buy any excess wind power at the wind farm owners price.
12.62¢/kWhr in Northwest
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12.62¢/kWhr in Northwest Arkansas, also primarily using power from coal plants. Actually, since about 5 months ago, we now get pretty much all of our power from the Tontitown landfill, which has 5 Caterpillar generators making power from landfill gas, and there's also the option of adding $5, $10, $20, $50, or $100 to our electric bill each month for green power, which is used to buy power from one of 3 hydroelectric stations on the Arkansas River. Even with all of the computers running 24/7, our power bill rarely exceeds $100, except for a couple of months in summer and a couple of months in winter when cooling and heating control are needed.
8 Canadian cents/kWh here in
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8 Canadian cents/kWh here in Alberta is a typical rate. Then you add in all sorts of fees, losses and distirubtion fees. Winter capacity is tight and wholesale prices can spike but at the consumer level it stays between 6-10 cents/kWh throughout the year. Which turns into 10-15cents a kWh.
You can also add the green production options but I took the path of putting that money into CFLs starting long ago (1992 to be exact) and now have been switching to LED bulbs. Yes they are high cost but my nerd side needs to be cutting edge. What is strange is that CFL bulbs purchased almost 20 years ago are quite robust and still working whereas modern ones purchased today generally last 2-3 years.
Power split between coal and nat gas with nominal hydro, biomass. Wind is growing and can at times produce 10% of the grid but it just doesn't have the consistency of production. Solar is growing in Alberta although more in small scale as opposed to large farms where even in the short hours of the winter there is a lot of sunshine.
http://ets.aeso.ca/
Every region should have something like this.
DownUnda I get 17 - 19 cents
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DownUnda I get 17 - 19 cents AUD from off to on peak, domestic rate. About 80 - 90 % coal, nominally the remainder is hydro and a token amount of wind. Generation from natural gas or biomass is pretty well localised and for specific industry support.
[ No solar. In Australia. We can fit entire other countries within the borders of our cloudless deserts. Yet there is no publicly distributed solar of any notable scale in Australia. Can you believe that? ]
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Hi! Germany: around 0.25
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Hi!
Germany: around 0.25 EUR/kWh , and rising.
So every Watt of a device running 24/7 will cost around 2.2 EUR / year here. Makes you think about conserving energy.
CU
HB
RE: [ No solar. In
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The most likely reason is that currently there is no way to send any Australian solar generated power to me here in the US! That means that the only good it would do is to help you guys and the costs probably outweigh the benefits right now. Kind of like the flaring of natural gas at oil wells and plants. If you look at most oil wells and oil distribution plants you will see a flare burning natural gas off so it doesn't cause problems. I once asked an oil engineer why they don't capture that and sell it to us consumers and he said 'we will when it makes fiscal sense to do it, right now it is cheaper to burn it than capture it'! What that all boils down to is that when building a solar plant makes sense you will see some pop up in those cloudless deserts, but not before.
Oh and I can't find how much I am paying for the electricity I am using but it used to be around 6 to 6.5 cents per kwh US. I live in Virginia and we have hydro, coal, nuclear and coal power plants. The local dump does run generators off the methane gas it produces but I do not know if that supplements the grid or not. I currently have 14 pc's running here at home and am paying about $500.00 a month for them and my all electric house. With just the wife and I now, the kids are off at college, most of the electricity is for the pc's! I too switched to all cfl's over 2 years ago, I have 2 non cfl bulbs in the house but their fixtures do not allow for the cfl bulbs, they are only hallway lights so are only on for a minute or two at a time at most anyway. I have switched to one led bulb but am not quite sure I like it yet, it is not as bright as the cfl it replaced which is the problem. This is probably because I did not get an 'equivalent' bulb though.
Ja, here in Germany the
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Ja, here in Germany the energy-costs are very high with 0.25 EUR/kWh = 0.35 US-$/kWh
Also, not the latest prices, but a good comparison : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_pricing#Global_electricity_price_comparison
In my town 1,4 RUB/kWh =
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In my town
1,4 RUB/kWh = ~0,035 EUR/kWh ...
Welcome to Russia ;)
RE: The most likely reason
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I guess that's the rub, as hydrocarbons are energy dense and portable. We've ticked the box on 'green power' for our house which is five-ish percent more on the bill. 'Green' translates here to 'not carbon' so that's hydro and wind in practice. We don't actually know ( haven't inquired into ) the detail of the back end deal, but I'm guessing we are just generically supporting the alternates. I CFL'ed the house about five years ago, and have replaced maybe two or three bulbs of some twenty or so ( most are low power flush-with-ceiling down lights ). Unless they are all programmed to fail next month ( now that I've mentioned it! ) that's still a great lifetime compared to incandescent.
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal