I'm not getting any new work since the last 24 hours. I have no WU's left to process. Does anybody know if there are any issues? Thanks.
Are you running a beta test app under the AP mechanism using an app_info.xml file? If so just delete app_info.xml and stop and restart BOINC.
Hm, strange. I suspended all other projects to enforce a scheduler request and now I got the following message:
18/01/2009 12:03:05|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 172802 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Message from server: To get more Einstein@Home work, finish current work, stop BOINC, remove app_info.xml file, and restart.
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Message from server: No work sent
But why must I delete the app_info file? I'm running an optimized app. for Einstein, so that should cause even more problems. I'm not running any beta apps. Thanks again.
I'm not getting any new work since the last 24 hours. I have no WU's left to process. Does anybody know if there are any issues? Thanks.
Are you running a beta test app under the AP mechanism using an app_info.xml file? If so just delete app_info.xml and stop and restart BOINC.
Hm, strange. I suspended all other projects to enforce a scheduler request and now I got the following message:
18/01/2009 12:03:05|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 172802 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Message from server: To get more Einstein@Home work, finish current work, stop BOINC, remove app_info.xml file, and restart.
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Message from server: No work sent
But why must I delete the app_info file? I'm running an optimized app. for Einstein, so that should cause even more problems. I'm not running any beta apps. Thanks again.
The opt apps are now the standard apps so to speak, they have also moved on to crunching S5R5 ... if you remove the app_info file it will let the new WU etc be sent to you.
Just a short clarification: The stock apps of S5R5 are indeed offering the same performance as those in the last S5R4 run (even the beta app for Windows was made an official one in S5R4 shortly before the end of the run). But the new apps feature an improvement in sensitivity, so even if you find ways to use the old apps in the new runs by various manipulations, please DON'T do that because a) you won't get better performance and worse b) you risk getting validation errors because all others are using the improved, official apps.
So: do as nurse Boinc says, delete the app_info.xml file when running out of WUs and all will be fine.
The opt apps are now the standard apps so to speak, they have also moved on to crunching S5R5 ... if you remove the app_info file it will let the new WU etc be sent to you.
Thanks, that did help.
18/01/2009 13:24:29|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 172802 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
18/01/2009 13:24:55|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 11 new tasks
18/01/2009 13:24:57|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:24:57|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_0.exe
18/01/2009 13:24:58|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:24:58|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_1.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:28|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_0.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:28|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:43|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_1.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:43|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:45|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:45|Einstein@Home|Started download of skygrid_0660Hz_S5R5.dat
18/01/2009 13:25:48|Einstein@Home|Finished download of skygrid_0660Hz_S5R5.dat
18/01/2009 13:25:55|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting h1_0656.95_S5R4__528_S5R5a_0
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting task h1_0656.95_S5R4__528_S5R5a_0 using einstein_S5R5 version 301
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting h1_0656.95_S5R4__527_S5R5a_0
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting task h1_0656.95_S5R4__527_S5R5a_0 using einstein_S5R5 version 301
Besides the files that start with: einstein_S5R5_3.01_... I have still two files named einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe and einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe in my directory. Can I remove these files?
Question 2: I noticed that the WU's are much smaller. Normally I would process a WU in 6 hours. Now BOINC indicates 3.5 hours. The WU's have become smaller?
Besides the files that start with: einstein_S5R5_3.01_... I have still two files named einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe and einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe in my directory. Can I remove these files?
Yes. Because they were installed manually, I don't think BOINC will try to re-download them.
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Question 2: I noticed that the WU's are much smaller. Normally I would process a WU in 6 hours. Now BOINC indicates 3.5 hours. The WU's have become smaller?
Yes, WUs are smaller now on average, but the initial guesstimation by BOINC about the runtime might be off a bit, BOINC needs to collect a few datapoints before it can do a really good estimation.
If the average runtime was only 6 h in run S5R5 (you must have a pretty fast PC), then the average runtime in S5R5 should be around 4 h. But the relative variation in runtime is now higher, so expect runtime in the range (very roughly) 3.5 ... 5 h
Besides the files that start with: einstein_S5R5_3.01_... I have still two files named einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe and einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe in my directory. Can I remove these files?
Yes. Because they were installed manually, I don't think BOINC will try to re-download them.
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Question 2: I noticed that the WU's are much smaller. Normally I would process a WU in 6 hours. Now BOINC indicates 3.5 hours. The WU's have become smaller?
Yes, WUs are smaller now on average, but the initial guesstimation by BOINC about the runtime might be off a bit, BOINC needs to collect a few datapoints before it can do a really good estimation.
If the average runtime was only 6 h in run S5R5 (you must have a pretty fast PC), then the average runtime in S5R5 should be around 4 h. But the relative variation in runtime is now higher, so expect runtime in the range (very roughly) 3.5 ... 5 h
CU
Bikeman
Yes, my computer is pretty fast and has the following processor:
18/01/2009 13:22:43||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
Besides the files that start with: einstein_S5R5_3.01_... I have still two files named einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe and einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe in my directory. Can I remove these files?
Yes. Because they were installed manually, I don't think BOINC will try to re-download them.
I'm afraid BOINC still wants them. I deleted them and now I'm getting the following messages:
19/01/2009 16:59:01||[error] No URL for file transfer of einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01|Einstein@Home|[error] Can't initialize file transfer for einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01||[error] No URL for file transfer of einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01|Einstein@Home|[error] Can't initialize file transfer for einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
When I enforce the download (by clicking on Retry), I get the following messages:
19/01/2009 17:56:32|Einstein@Home|Backing off 28 min 16 sec on download of einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 17:56:40|Einstein@Home|Backing off 3 hr 53 min 55 sec on download of einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
Why can't I download them? When I replace the original files, I get the message the they don't have the proper signature.
Crunching goes well though, so where are those files for in the first place. Thanks.
The entries might also have file signatures included (the above examples don't).
If the two files were 'official', the entries should have URLs included for where BOINC can get them if it needs to. Under the AP (anonymous platform - using app_info.xml) mechanism, file signatures are not needed because you, not BOINC, are responsible for the executables and BOINC is not supposed to download them.
Quote:
19/01/2009 16:59:01||[error] No URL for file transfer of einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01|Einstein@Home|[error] Can't initialize file transfer for einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01||[error] No URL for file transfer of einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01|Einstein@Home|[error] Can't initialize file transfer for einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
If you read the error messages closely, you will see that the complaint is about missing URLs - the very URLs I mentioned above. Something must have gone wrong at or before the time you deleted the app_info.xml file and your state file is now in an inconsistent state. The complaints about missing URLs will continue to haunt you until you stop BOINC and edit your state file to remove the two blocks similar to the ones I showed you in the examples above.
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Why can't I download them? When I replace the original files, I get the message the they don't have the proper signature.
You are not supposed to. They are not currently 'official' apps (version 6.10 is for S5R4) and there will be no future need for them. You need to clean them out of your state file.
But I see a lot of S5R4 work in the status page that have to be done. But why should I move on to new version if I see that server side has a job for me. What makes me impossible to download new data files for old analysis?
P.S. I'm using S5R4 v6.07 and my cache is not empty yet :)
No more work
)
Are you running a beta test app under the AP mechanism using an app_info.xml file? If so just delete app_info.xml and stop and restart BOINC.
Cheers,
Gary.
RE: RE: I'm not getting
)
Hm, strange. I suspended all other projects to enforce a scheduler request and now I got the following message:
18/01/2009 12:03:05|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 172802 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Message from server: To get more Einstein@Home work, finish current work, stop BOINC, remove app_info.xml file, and restart.
18/01/2009 12:03:10|Einstein@Home|Message from server: No work sent
But why must I delete the app_info file? I'm running an optimized app. for Einstein, so that should cause even more problems. I'm not running any beta apps. Thanks again.
RE: RE: RE: I'm not
)
The opt apps are now the standard apps so to speak, they have also moved on to crunching S5R5 ... if you remove the app_info file it will let the new WU etc be sent to you.
Hi! Just a short
)
Hi!
Just a short clarification: The stock apps of S5R5 are indeed offering the same performance as those in the last S5R4 run (even the beta app for Windows was made an official one in S5R4 shortly before the end of the run). But the new apps feature an improvement in sensitivity, so even if you find ways to use the old apps in the new runs by various manipulations, please DON'T do that because a) you won't get better performance and worse b) you risk getting validation errors because all others are using the improved, official apps.
So: do as nurse Boinc says, delete the app_info.xml file when running out of WUs and all will be fine.
CU
Bikeman
RE: The opt apps are now
)
Thanks, that did help.
18/01/2009 13:24:29|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 172802 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
18/01/2009 13:24:55|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 11 new tasks
18/01/2009 13:24:57|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:24:57|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_0.exe
18/01/2009 13:24:58|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:24:58|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_1.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:28|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_0.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:28|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:43|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_1.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:43|Einstein@Home|Started download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:45|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:45|Einstein@Home|Started download of skygrid_0660Hz_S5R5.dat
18/01/2009 13:25:48|Einstein@Home|Finished download of skygrid_0660Hz_S5R5.dat
18/01/2009 13:25:55|Einstein@Home|Finished download of einstein_S5R5_3.01_windows_intelx86_2.exe
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting h1_0656.95_S5R4__528_S5R5a_0
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting task h1_0656.95_S5R4__528_S5R5a_0 using einstein_S5R5 version 301
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting h1_0656.95_S5R4__527_S5R5a_0
18/01/2009 13:25:57|Einstein@Home|Starting task h1_0656.95_S5R4__527_S5R5a_0 using einstein_S5R5 version 301
Besides the files that start with: einstein_S5R5_3.01_... I have still two files named einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe and einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe in my directory. Can I remove these files?
Question 2: I noticed that the WU's are much smaller. Normally I would process a WU in 6 hours. Now BOINC indicates 3.5 hours. The WU's have become smaller?
RE: Besides the files that
)
Yes. Because they were installed manually, I don't think BOINC will try to re-download them.
Yes, WUs are smaller now on average, but the initial guesstimation by BOINC about the runtime might be off a bit, BOINC needs to collect a few datapoints before it can do a really good estimation.
If the average runtime was only 6 h in run S5R5 (you must have a pretty fast PC), then the average runtime in S5R5 should be around 4 h. But the relative variation in runtime is now higher, so expect runtime in the range (very roughly) 3.5 ... 5 h
CU
Bikeman
RE: RE: Besides the
)
Yes, my computer is pretty fast and has the following processor:
18/01/2009 13:22:43||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
Thank you all for your help.
RE: RE: Besides the
)
I'm afraid BOINC still wants them. I deleted them and now I'm getting the following messages:
19/01/2009 16:59:01||[error] No URL for file transfer of einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01|Einstein@Home|[error] Can't initialize file transfer for einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01||[error] No URL for file transfer of einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 16:59:01|Einstein@Home|[error] Can't initialize file transfer for einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
When I enforce the download (by clicking on Retry), I get the following messages:
19/01/2009 17:56:32|Einstein@Home|Backing off 28 min 16 sec on download of einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe
19/01/2009 17:56:40|Einstein@Home|Backing off 3 hr 53 min 55 sec on download of einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe
Why can't I download them? When I replace the original files, I get the message the they don't have the proper signature.
Crunching goes well though, so where are those files for in the first place. Thanks.
RE: I'm afraid BOINC still
)
That would have to be because they must still be listed in your state file (client_state.xml) with entries that look something like:-
einstein_S5R4_6.05_windows_intelx86.exe 0.000000 0.000000 1and
einstein_S5R4_6.05_graphics_windows_intelx86.exe 0.000000 0.000000 1The entries might also have file signatures included (the above examples don't).
If the two files were 'official', the entries should have URLs included for where BOINC can get them if it needs to. Under the AP (anonymous platform - using app_info.xml) mechanism, file signatures are not needed because you, not BOINC, are responsible for the executables and BOINC is not supposed to download them.
If you read the error messages closely, you will see that the complaint is about missing URLs - the very URLs I mentioned above. Something must have gone wrong at or before the time you deleted the app_info.xml file and your state file is now in an inconsistent state. The complaints about missing URLs will continue to haunt you until you stop BOINC and edit your state file to remove the two blocks similar to the ones I showed you in the examples above.
You are not supposed to. They are not currently 'official' apps (version 6.10 is for S5R4) and there will be no future need for them. You need to clean them out of your state file.
Cheers,
Gary.
But I see a lot of S5R4 work
)
But I see a lot of S5R4 work in the status page that have to be done. But why should I move on to new version if I see that server side has a job for me. What makes me impossible to download new data files for old analysis?
P.S. I'm using S5R4 v6.07 and my cache is not empty yet :)