Large number of WU stays in pending credits

Gary Roberts
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RE: waiting for validation

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waiting for validation 2,338

I've just had a look and the queue is empty again right now.

The validator may have been temporarily not running (eg to install a new version or carry out other maintenance) when you happened to look.

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Gary.

Mike Hewson
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So the apparent drop in

So the apparent drop in active hosts, 86K to 72K, over the w/end is simply reflecting the validator glitch only?

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I think there's a latent

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I think there's a latent database problem around here as well, as it happens that I try to load forums or individual threads and end up on a white page only. Reloading the same link will usually fix that, but in case of threads they're then set to 'already read' so I have to find the newest posts myself.

Gary Roberts
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RE: So the apparent drop

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So the apparent drop in active hosts, 86K to 72K, over the w/end is simply reflecting the validator glitch only?

Uhmm... it's actually the wrong weekend as the validator glitch was the last weekend and that drop was the weekend before (unless I'm reading things incorrectly - which is always possible :-).)

I would guess that the two events aren't related, or perhaps, as Jord suggests, may just be different manifestations of an underlying malaise. As David Hammer reported, the validator got stuck on a particular result for some reason. It's hard to imagine how that could be linked to any change in the number of active hosts?? That change appears to be too sudden to be "real" don't you think?

EDIT: Now if you had been talking about floating point speed rather than active hosts, I could have agreed wholeheartedly.

Cheers,
Gary.

Mike Hewson
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RE: I think there's a

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I think there's a latent database problem around here as well, as it happens that I try to load forums or individual threads and end up on a white page only. Reloading the same link will usually fix that, but in case of threads they're then set to 'already read' so I have to find the newest posts myself.


I'm getting a bit of deja vu here, ie. comparing with the end of the last run ( or the one before? ) when the high volume of 'clean up' activity caused instability server side. What was that due to again ( some hard drive 'NCQ' setting causing RAID rebuilds ) ?

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

Mike Hewson
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RE: Uhmm... it's actually

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Uhmm... it's actually the wrong weekend as the validator glitch was the last weekend and that drop was the weekend before (unless I'm reading things incorrectly - which is always possible :-).)


Doh! Yeah .... still ~ 20 % drop in a couple of days.

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I would guess that the two events aren't related, or perhaps, as Jord suggests, may just be different manifestations of an underlying malaise. As David Hammer reported, the validator got stuck on a particular result for some reason. It's hard to imagine how that could be linked to any change in the number of active hosts?? That change appears to be too sudden to be "real" don't you think?


Unless it's related to your Windoze -> Linux conversion idea, with those reborn boxes now calling back in from their first units.

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EDIT: Now if you had been talking about floating point speed rather than active hosts, I could have agreed wholeheartedly.


Yeah the FP squiggle is definitely on the right w/end.

Cheers, Mike.

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RE: RE: I think there's a

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I think there's a latent database problem around here as well, as it happens that I try to load forums or individual threads and end up on a white page only. Reloading the same link will usually fix that, but in case of threads they're then set to 'already read' so I have to find the newest posts myself.

I'm getting a bit of deja vu here, ie. comparing with the end of the last run ( or the one before? ) when the high volume of 'clean up' activity caused instability server side. What was that due to again ( some hard drive 'NCQ' setting causing RAID rebuilds ) ?


Something with the switch over from one application to the next and the server not coping? I can't remember, but I find it funny that each time I have these problems and email David about it, that there's no record of it anywhere on the server.

Perhaps someone is phishing the servers. We're not really on here... ;-)

Mike Hewson
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RE: Something with the

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Something with the switch over from one application to the next and the server not coping? I can't remember, but I find it funny that each time I have these problems and email David about it, that there's no record of it anywhere on the server.


Err..... no record of the problem, or no record of the email about the problem? :-)

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

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RE: RE: Something with

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Something with the switch over from one application to the next and the server not coping? I can't remember, but I find it funny that each time I have these problems and email David about it, that there's no record of it anywhere on the server.

Err..... no record of the problem, or no record of the email about the problem? :-)


Something like this, that I just had:

The server at einstein.phys.uwm.edu is taking too long to respond.

I'm sure if I report that to David that he won't be able to find a record of it on the server. I'm banned. ;-)

P.S: I did email David on it as I had multiple errors in a row.

Bikeman (Heinz-Bernd Eggenstein)
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So, is anybody else having

So, is anybody else having performance problems for the web frontend? Pages not loading, time-outs, blank pages? Because on my end everything is OK! Go figure...

CU
Bikeman

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