Work units not suspended; claimed credit 0
28 May 2008 13:14:40 UTC
Topic 193700
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Hi,
The S5R3_4 processes are not suspended when I return to my keyboard. Also the claimed credit is always 0.
At the moment I have one process that will not start, and another one that will not stop:
~/BOINC> ps -ostime,time,args -p 14037 25703
STIME TIME COMMAND
May14 00:00:00 ../../projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/einstein_S5R3_4.38_i686-pc-l
09:33 05:27:49 ../../projects/einstein.phys.uwm.edu/einstein_S5R3_4.38_i686-pc-l
The message log shows normal operation (fi. "Suspending computation and network activity - user is active", followed by "Pausing result ...").
Platform:
openSUSE 10.2 (X86-64), Kernel 2.6.18
BOINC manager 4.43
I'm not sure when these issues started, but I think it was some months ago.
Hans
Work units not suspended; claimed credit 0
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How about trying a newer version of BOINC? The latest releases are 5.10.45 and we're testing 6.2 at the moment. Just to give you an idea on how old the one is that you're using.
Check what http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php has in store for you.
If you look at the debugging
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If you look at the debugging output of your results, you can see that Jord is right:
This is not good, if the app runs in standalone mode it will not be properly controlled by BOINC. So you should definitely follow Jord's advise.
CU
Bikeman
RE: If you look at the
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Ok, thanks. I didn't upgrade because SUSE 10.2 is not on the "known to work" list and was afraid to get into some dependency issues. I will try now anyway.
Hans
RE: Ok, thanks. I didn't
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Well, I now have 2 processses running while I'm at my keyboard, so that didn't seem to help. I don't even get the "Suspending computation ..." message anymore.
Furthermore, there is no boincmgr in the distribution I got pointed to (boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.sh), which means I have no graphical interface anymore.
Any hints?
Hans
RE: RE: Ok, thanks. I
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BOINC 5.10.45 works on my SuSE 10.3 32 bit with also the graphical interface of BOINC manager.
Tullio
RE: Well, I now have 2
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This is expected since you have a dual processor machine. You appear to have created a new hostID for your machine rather than simply upgrading the BOINC on the original one. Adding a new host shouldn't change your preferences so I'm not sure why things are different now. It could mean that all your preferences should be checked and set afresh if needed.
Yes, there is - well at least there is in the non _64 version that I'm using on PCLinuxOS. So I imagine there would be a manager in your package. It's a shell archive so just put a copy of it in some temp directory and execute it - ie cd to where you put it and issue the command "%sh ". It will create a BOINC subdirectory there and unpack all the files into that subdirectory. Look in there and you are bound to find all the executables that should be in the BOINC package.
For your reference, the non _64 version of BOINC 5.10.45 contains 3 executables, 3 .png icon files, ca-bundle.crt, and the locale directory. I simply replace the old versions of exactly these files. Your very, very, old version would probably have some different files but as long as the three executables are replaced, any now redundant files shouldn't really matter.
To upgrade your version of BOINC at any time, all you need to do is
* Unpack the new shell archive in a temporary area
* Replace just the BOINC files in your current client directory with the corresponding files from the new version, leaving all project files, xml files, etc, untouched.
* Restart BOINC
* All project apps should just restart from where they left off.
To be safe you could make backup copies of the BOINC directory before you started and disable the network so that the results of any disaster couldn't be communicated back to the respective projects, etc. Then you could restore the backup and be no worse off than when you started. I've had no problems so I don't usually do this backup procedure but you need to be confident that you have followed the steps precisely, and the ultimate responsibility is yours :-).
Since you now appear to have duplicated hostIDs, you might consider attempting to merge them. Your old hostID has several results still in progress and it would be good to retrieve those. If you go to your computer summary page on the website (account page -> your computers -> computerID) for your new hostID, you should find a merge link at the bottom of the page. Try it and see if it will merge your old hostID in with your new one. If you can, you will be able to retrieve your previous work in progress.
GOOD Luck!
Cheers,
Gary.
RE: RE: Well, I now have
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I was not surprised at having two processes, but at the fact they were not stopped on keyboard activity.
There were only 2 executables, boinc and boinc_cmd.
I tried to install twice. The first time in a clean directory. This didn't pick up the einstein project, but I thought I could use the boincmgr to join again (discarding the work done).
Since there was no boincmgr, I removed the installation, and did a second install on top of the old one (I saved it before I started). After this, At least the einstein processes started, but the boincmgr is still the old one, and the processes don't stop on keyboard activity.
Ok, I merged them. I have the impression that my old results had already been picked up by installing the new version on top of the old one.
The impression I have from yours and tullio's response is that the 32-bit version does have a boincmgr and the 64-bit one doesn't.
I'm also not sure why the processes don't stop. If I'm not mistaken, this should be independent from "boincmgr" and be handled by "boinc". The old output from "boinc" gave "Suspending computation ..." messages and the new one doesn't.
Hans
RE: The impression I have
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I can assure the 64 bit version with ubuntu in the file name does have the manager. I'm using it on a 64 bit Fedora machine. Make sure you got the ubuntu .sh. The other one only has boinc and boinc_cmd (or whatever it's called in the 5.10 line).
I also think there still are issues with detecting keyboard and mouse use in the Linux version. I'd have to check Trac and the check-in notes to be sure.
Kathryn :o)
Einstein@Home Moderator
RE: RE: The impression I
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Aargh, that explains where I went wrong. I somehow had downloaded a boinc_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh (I have no idea where I got this one from anymore, or why the download of the ubuntu version failed) and didn't pay enough attention to notice that this wasn't the proper one (I love filename completion :-).
At least it seems to work now (minus the suspend and language switch in the interface).
Thanks.
Hans
It looks like this problem
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It looks like this problem ("running in standalone mode") is present in all the results from App 4.38 and Core Clients 4.43, though it doesn't always lead to Client Errors.
I (and probably the BOINC people, too) would be really curious to know whether the problem with the old Client still occurs with the 4.49 App currently in Beta test, which has been built with a more recent version of the BOINC library.
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