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Steve Thompson
Steve Thompson
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Topic 193361

Hello all,

I have an Intel iMac with an Intel Core 2 Duo running at 2.4 2.4 GHz. In my EAH I have 4 results with unclaimed credit and my SAH with 11 results with unclaimed credit. Some of these go back to November 2nd.

1. Will I ever get credit for these?
2. Why are they listed as unclaimed credit when results with newer dates are listed as granted credit?

Thanks,

Steve

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Jord
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2. Why are they listed as unclaimed credit when results with newer dates are listed as granted credit?


You will get credit for them as soon as the quorum on them is reached. There are always a minimum of two computers needed at Einstein to reach the quorum. It's just a fail-safe mechanism to check that the data you returned is actually data.

So just wait until the other computers that have the same tasks return them.

Jim Milks
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It can take a while before

It can take a while before the other computer comes in with a result, especially if they have problems. I've had to wait for two or three months before I got credit. The important thing is that you will get credit eventually. Patience is key.

Annika
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I've seen WUs which crashed

I've seen WUs which crashed on as many as three different PCs; having to wait for all three would make you wait quite a while for your credits.
Then there are vintages hosts, some people here are still running P3s or P2s or comparable AMDs.
Add to that hosts running at a low res share and therefore taking their time for Einstein WUs and people with really large work caches of a week or more, and you can easily get huge pendings without having to worry the slightest bit.
Atm, my desktop PC (a reasonably fast 3500+, almost 24/7, running a one-day-cache) has 5 of its 16 WUs pending, and that's not even a multicore. So if you're running a really fast box, maybe a good quadcore, or have many comparably fast PCs running many hours a day, I think 1000s of pending credits wouldn't be that unusual.

Richard Haselgrove
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RE: I've seen WUs which

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I've seen WUs which crashed on as many as three different PCs; having to wait for all three would make you wait quite a while for your credits.
Then there are vintages hosts, some people here are still running P3s or P2s or comparable AMDs.
Add to that hosts running at a low res share and therefore taking their time for Einstein WUs and people with really large work caches of a week or more, and you can easily get huge pendings without having to worry the slightest bit.
Atm, my desktop PC (a reasonably fast 3500+, almost 24/7, running a one-day-cache) has 5 of its 16 WUs pending, and that's not even a multicore. So if you're running a really fast box, maybe a good quadcore, or have many comparably fast PCs running many hours a day, I think 1000s of pending credits wouldn't be that unusual.


I've got 4,250 pending at the moment, across several machines - that's a bit less than twice my RAC, and seems pretty stable.

When I was doing my timing run, and a Q6600 (quad core) running full-blast on Einstein, I got so far ahead of my wingmen (and wing-women - sorry Annika!) that I ran up over 20,000 pending on the one box. (All cleared now).

Steve Thompson
Steve Thompson
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Thank you to all that have

Thank you to all that have responded. I appreciate all of your assistance. I can see how they would accumulate with others that have slower machines.

Cheers,

Steve

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Jim Bailey
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It doesn't take it long to

It doesn't take it long to build up. Mine finally dropped below 9k today, from a high of over 12k a week ago.

Astro
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Well, I'm up to 9,500 pending

Well, I'm up to 9,500 pending and rising. Does anyone know the ratio of pending to granted/day with a 1 day cache? I'd assume the ratio is higher for short Connection intervals and small caches as compared to someone with a weeks worth of work. Since, I'm probably the first to return a particular wu.

Richard Haselgrove
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RE: Well, I'm up to 9,500

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Well, I'm up to 9,500 pending and rising. Does anyone know the ratio of pending to granted/day with a 1 day cache? I'd assume the ratio is higher for short Connection intervals and small caches as compared to someone with a weeks worth of work. Since, I'm probably the first to return a particular wu.


I'm currently at about double (13.2K pending, 6.7K RAC) - with a 1 day cache.

It also depends on how you drive the machine. When I was doing the speed test runs (Q6600 on 100% Einstein), pending got much higher - well over 20K (even though the cache was still only one day): it's because you tend to chase down the sequence numbers in a frequency band, and get a long way ahead of the work even being issued to your wing-mates.

Edit - that's interesting: I've just re-read the rest of the thread, and found that I gave the same answer when the same question was asked 3 months ago! About double it is then, unless you're pushing a fast machine really hard.

anders n
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RE: Well, I'm up to 9,500

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Well, I'm up to 9,500 pending and rising. Does anyone know the ratio of pending to granted/day with a 1 day cache? I'd assume the ratio is higher for short Connection intervals and small caches as compared to someone with a weeks worth of work. Since, I'm probably the first to return a particular wu.

I run a 1 day cache with a RAC of about 5200 and 14500-15500 in peding.
( I run with a few computers and with some time spent on other projects)
Anders n

Nothing But Idle Time
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All you fast cats have to


All you fast cats have to wait for us old goats to catch up. I have only one cpu and an internet connection with a mind of its own.

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