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RE: Well, I ..... err .....

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Well, I ..... err ..... suppose we ought congratulate Mr. Obama. :-)

Poor chap looked a bit bemused though.

Cheers, Mike.

I think the award should be shared with George Walker just for leaving office:-)

Seriously.. I congratulate President Obama on the win. Mind you the peace prize has always been a political prize not always based on accomplishments but sometimes on the possibility of change for the good. Hopefully the award win will shake things up a bit..

I am pleased :-)

It's hard to start a war when your the peace prize winner..

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RE: I think the award

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I think the award should be shared with George Walker just for leaving office:-)

Seriously.. I congratulate President Obama on the win. Mind you the peace prize has always been a political prize not always based on accomplishments but sometimes on the possibility of change for the good. Hopefully the award win will shake things up a bit..

I am pleased :-)

It's hard to start a war when your the peace prize winner..


It's not as if he needs expectations upon him ramped up as it is.

But I do hope they keep the other prizes retrospective, otherwise the whole thing will become silly.

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

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RE: RE: I think the award

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I think the award should be shared with George Walker just for leaving office:-)

Seriously.. I congratulate President Obama on the win. Mind you the peace prize has always been a political prize not always based on accomplishments but sometimes on the possibility of change for the good. Hopefully the award win will shake things up a bit..

I am pleased :-)

It's hard to start a war when your the peace prize winner..


It's not as if he needs expectations upon him ramped up as it is.

But I do hope they keep the other prizes retrospective, otherwise the whole thing will become silly.

Cheers, Mike.

I am also pleased a local boy shared the nobel for physics for his work on charged coupled devices :-)

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RE: RE: I think the award

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I think the award should be shared with George Walker just for leaving office:-)

Seriously.. I congratulate President Obama on the win. Mind you the peace prize has always been a political prize not always based on accomplishments but sometimes on the possibility of change for the good. Hopefully the award win will shake things up a bit..

I am pleased :-)

It's hard to start a war when your the peace prize winner..


It's not as if he needs expectations upon him ramped up as it is.

But I do hope they keep the other prizes retrospective, otherwise the whole thing will become silly.

Cheers, Mike.

This why I am pleased because it puts a stick in the eye of the status quo :-)

Politics

Edit: The same thing happened when Martin Luther King was awarded..

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RE: This why I am pleased

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This why I am pleased because it puts a stick in the eye of the status quo :-)

Politics

Edit: The same thing happened when Martin Luther King was awarded..


One good thing was that DownUnda we got to find out what he'd been up to ( or not! ) on foreign policy, nukes, Middle East etc. That sort of thing really is not projected much this way. ( Not that with a bit of effort you couldn't find out anyway ).

But I long for information channels that clearly separate 'news' from 'opinion'. I'm a bit rude in that way .... if I wanted to know what some talking head X thinks about some topic Y, I would ring up and ask them! Otherwise don't bother me. Just pass on the factual knowledge, and stop trying to slip opinion in as fact, or covertly representing the news proprietor.

It's odd, actually. I would guarantee that anyone who wants to simply be a factual knowledge outlet, would make an utter fortune in Australia. It used to be our 'national broadcaster' the ABC but that's now some two generations ago since they've had that role. Certainly it's an empty category at present, so you'd start without any competition. Being the first to do it gives one a great lead in the market. You don't have to make up stories to sell them, and many are sick of 'wrapped' theatrical presentations! :-)

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

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RE: RE: This why I am

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This why I am pleased because it puts a stick in the eye of the status quo :-)

Politics

Edit: The same thing happened when Martin Luther King was awarded..


One good thing was that DownUnda we got to find out what he'd been up to ( or not! ) on foreign policy, nukes, Middle East etc. That sort of thing really is not projected much this way. ( Not that with a bit of effort you couldn't find out anyway ).

But I long for information channels that clearly separate 'news' from 'opinion'. I'm a bit rude in that way .... if I wanted to know what some talking head X thinks about some topic Y, I would ring up and ask them! Otherwise don't bother me. Just pass on the factual knowledge, and stop trying to slip opinion in as fact, or covertly representing the news proprietor.

It's odd, actually. I would guarantee that anyone who wants to simply be a factual knowledge outlet, would make an utter fortune in Australia. It used to be our 'national broadcaster' the ABC but that's now some two generations ago since they've had that role. Certainly it's an empty category at present, so you'd start without any competition. Being the first to do it gives one a great lead in the market. You don't have to make up stories to sell them, and many are sick of 'wrapped' theatrical presentations! :-)

Cheers, Mike.

Thats a tough nut to crack.. Its even somebody's opinion on what facts to publish or broadcast. I just try to absorb as much from all sources both online and broadcast including cable as I can. I even watch and read the sources that tighten up my stomach muscles:-) . My browser home page is just igoogle covered with news browser gadgets everything from top news stories from various sources around the world. To such edgy sources like: Current News .

Edit: In Canada it is necessary for us to know what the US is up to in as much detail as possible... as our ex- prime minister Pierre Trudeau said living next to the US is like mouse being in bed with an elephant..

Edit: Don't worry even most Americans don't know what their government is up to on foreign policy. Including most pundits with their big mouths

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RE: Edit: Don't worry even

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Edit: Don't worry even most Americans don't know what their government is up to on foreign policy. Including most pundits with their big mouths


I hear that! The good news is that most Aussies have the more or less the same suspicion level of politicians and the press as I've outlined. When our press get's caught out, as it occasionally does, lying flat out : their usual response is to claim they ought not be criticised as that breaches their independence or is undue influence. It's a convenient patch of moral high ground that fools few, fortunately. Is that 'hutzpah'? You know like when a man convicted of murdering of his parents pleads to the judge for mercy because he's an orphan.

So if we hear of some boner from overseas we don't hold it against the nation per se. And hope that the favour is returned when one of ours does likewise! That's one reason why the Internet is great ( ignoring it's failings for the minute ) as one can very cheaply deal one-on-one with individuals pretty well from anywhere.

As for our foreign policy we call Mr Rudd "Kevin 747" as he's always in one somewhere in the world [ "Kevin in '07" was his election slogan ]. His foreign policy is to visit everybody! Clearly he's had a real hankering for travel which may well be satisfied during his term in office. Well, you can't rule it out. He might actually visit every country in the world by the time he's done .... twice even. :-)

Obviously I don't understand the nuances of US politics, but I wouldn't have thought on the face of it that ( confusion aside ) Mr Obama getting the Nobel was either a disaster or insulting. Probably just bad grace from those who never liked him on other grounds anyway. I'm assuming that Mr Carter got it for his Camp David stuff so he's the most evident one to compare to.

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

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RE: Obviously I don't

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Obviously I don't understand the nuances of US politics, but I wouldn't have thought on the face of it that ( confusion aside ) Mr Obama getting the Nobel was either a disaster or insulting. Probably just bad grace from those who never liked him on other grounds anyway. I'm assuming that Mr Carter got it for his Camp David stuff so he's the most evident one to compare to.

Cheers, Mike.

Let me try to explain American politics.. There are two sides totally polarized.. and you have the middle.. which is too far right for the left.. and too far left for the right. In there discourse there is no respect or common sense. You just have look at their health care debate ( I am stretching it calling it a debate). Just to give you one small example among many.. Where you have the ex governor of Alaska stating things about the government establishing death panels to terminate her mentally challenged child so the government could save on health costs. Guaranteed the cable news shows carry it and they debate it merits giving it creditability. The sad thing people cling to their news sources and believe this crap

If It wasn't so bloody scary it would be amusing

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Just like to post an article,

Just like to post an article, where at the bottom outlines Obama's influence on the world stage and the results..

USA Today

Rhetoric is effective if it changes people's minds for the good.:-)

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RE: I hear that! The good

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I hear that! The good news is that most Aussies have the more or less the same suspicion level of politicians and the press as I've outlined. When our press get's caught out, as it occasionally does, lying flat out : their usual response is to claim they ought not be criticised as that breaches their independence or is undue influence. It's a convenient patch of moral high ground that fools few, fortunately. Is that 'hutzpah'? You know like when a man convicted of murdering of his parents pleads to the judge for mercy because he's an orphan.

Cheers, Mike.

There is one thing to have a healthy distrust of an organization but it another matter to be paranoid to point where medication( or a tin foil hat) might be helpful which ever works.. Remember a person who is racist is a deluded.

There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot. - Aldo Leopold

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