Hmmm, interesting. I haven't done a debt reset in a while, but my experience has been the same as Gary's. If you just replace the value with '0' instead of '0.000000', BOINC would revert to using the old value (which I assume meant it reverted to the value in the backup client_state file).
Guess if I get a "boredom moment" I'll give it a try with the later versions I'm running now to see if this changed.
Alinator
Don't bother, my 5.4.11 app (which should be the "current stable" as I downloaded it only a week ago after my Windows reinstall) reacted just the same.
As Jord pointed out, the EAH debt of -1024672 seconds represents the time that other projects (ie Seti) will run before EAH will be allowed to run. He was obviously using one of those famous Dutch cakculators because his estimate was a little bit out :). It's actually just under 12 days and not 9 months - pretty close for a Dutch calculator don't you think :).
I blame lack of sleep. I hadn't slept (normally) for over 3 days. But I am all up to speed again. Missed the step of dividing it by 24. ;)
Yeah, I know :). I'm in Brisbane but I'm guessing you are south of the border and on daylight saving time so it is getting a little late for you.
Yep I live in Melbourne, oh and it RAINED last night!!! :-D
Ok I followed the merging steps and my computer id is now 840813 and has incorporated 783254's results, well all but 10 points. So it looks like it's all working.
I've noticed the LTDs are now 1802.000000, so I'm guessing that every now and then I should check them and reset to 0.000000.
Thanks for your help Gary, all seems to be working now. :-)
Ok I followed the merging steps and my computer id is now 840813 and has incorporated 783254's results, well all but 10 points. So it looks like it's all working.
That sounds pretty good. It should be OK now.
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I've noticed the LTDs are now 1802.000000, so I'm guessing that every now and then I should check them and reset to 0.000000.
NO, not at all!!!
Please realise that we only fiddle with the state file in exceptional circumstances. A value of 1800 seconds (ie half an hour) is not at all unusual when the normal switch interval is an hour - 3600 seconds. If you would like to see a simple example of how the LTD values will change as the projects share the CPU, have a look at this post in another thread where the OP was having a problem with a crazy set of values for LTDs. You may need to review some earlier messages to get the full context but the example in the second half of my post shows exactly how LTD values are supposed to vary. In normal circumstances LTD values will cycle between +3600 and -3600 and will often be "crossing the equator" so to speak. They will move outside this general range if a project has to run more than it should (to meet a deadline) or cannot run at all (lack of work, server problems, etc). LTD is BOINCs mechanism for ensuring that your resource shares are respected.
EDIT: Resetting the debts by editing like this should be viewed as a bit of emergency surgery to correct a problem - not a routine exercise to be undertaken whenever you feel like it.
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Thanks for your help Gary, all seems to be working now. :-)
Ok then, no problems I'll leave things as they are and have a read of the link you sent me to get more info on this.
Happy crunching. :-)
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NO, not at all!!!
Please realise that we only fiddle with the state file in exceptional circumstances. A value of 1800 seconds (ie half an hour) is not at all unusual when the normal switch interval is an hour - 3600 seconds. If you would like to see a simple example of how the LTD values will change as the projects share the CPU, have a look at this post in another thread where the OP was having a problem with a crazy set of values for LTDs. You may need to review some earlier messages to get the full context but the example in the second half of my post shows exactly how LTD values are supposed to vary. In normal circumstances LTD values will cycle between +3600 and -3600 and will often be "crossing the equator" so to speak. They will move outside this general range if a project has to run more than it should (to meet a deadline) or cannot run at all (lack of work, server problems, etc). LTD is BOINCs mechanism for ensuring that your resource shares are respected.
EDIT: Resetting the debts by editing like this should be viewed as a bit of emergency surgery to correct a problem - not a routine exercise to be undertaken whenever you feel like it.
You noticed that my "puzzle" of Mouse was correct in the end? ;)
Absolutely - never doubted it for a minute. I was just too lazy on two counts:-
(i) I didn't have the patience to open up a copy of my state file in one window and go through it line by line, matching variable names and his jumbled-up values.
(ii) When you had done that work for me, I failed to appreciate, initially, just how big the LTD really was. Sometimes you can look at a number and it just doesn't register ....
There was a real benefit however. The OP learned the technique for scanning and presenting excerpts from his state file which he was obviously pleased about. When he did that, the abnormal LTD suddenly hit me in the face :).
It's the old adage really - you give a person a fish and he can feed himself for a day or you give him a fishing line .... :).
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Always a worry, depending upon the font and personal acuity:
1 and I, O and 0, S and 5, E and 3, g and 9, A and 4, B and 8, 2 and Z, b and 6.
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to which I add - B, 8 and 0 (when written with a slash thru it) and O
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Don't bother, my 5.4.11 app (which should be the "current stable" as I downloaded it only a week ago after my Windows reinstall) reacted just the same.
RE: As Jord pointed out,
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I blame lack of sleep. I hadn't slept (normally) for over 3 days. But I am all up to speed again. Missed the step of dividing it by 24. ;)
RE: Yeah, I know :). I'm in
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Yep I live in Melbourne, oh and it RAINED last night!!! :-D
Ok I followed the merging steps and my computer id is now 840813 and has incorporated 783254's results, well all but 10 points. So it looks like it's all working.
I've noticed the LTDs are now 1802.000000, so I'm guessing that every now and then I should check them and reset to 0.000000.
Thanks for your help Gary, all seems to be working now. :-)
Sean
RE: Ok I followed the
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That sounds pretty good. It should be OK now.
NO, not at all!!!
Please realise that we only fiddle with the state file in exceptional circumstances. A value of 1800 seconds (ie half an hour) is not at all unusual when the normal switch interval is an hour - 3600 seconds. If you would like to see a simple example of how the LTD values will change as the projects share the CPU, have a look at this post in another thread where the OP was having a problem with a crazy set of values for LTDs. You may need to review some earlier messages to get the full context but the example in the second half of my post shows exactly how LTD values are supposed to vary. In normal circumstances LTD values will cycle between +3600 and -3600 and will often be "crossing the equator" so to speak. They will move outside this general range if a project has to run more than it should (to meet a deadline) or cannot run at all (lack of work, server problems, etc). LTD is BOINCs mechanism for ensuring that your resource shares are respected.
EDIT: Resetting the debts by editing like this should be viewed as a bit of emergency surgery to correct a problem - not a routine exercise to be undertaken whenever you feel like it.
You're welcome!
Cheers,
Gary.
RE: I blame lack of
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That's OK ;). I was just "rattling your cage" :).
Cheers,
Gary.
LOL... You noticed that my
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LOL...
You noticed that my "puzzle" of Mouse was correct in the end? ;)
Ok then, no problems I'll
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Ok then, no problems I'll leave things as they are and have a read of the link you sent me to get more info on this.
Happy crunching. :-)
RE: LOL... You noticed
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Absolutely - never doubted it for a minute. I was just too lazy on two counts:-
(i) I didn't have the patience to open up a copy of my state file in one window and go through it line by line, matching variable names and his jumbled-up values.
(ii) When you had done that work for me, I failed to appreciate, initially, just how big the LTD really was. Sometimes you can look at a number and it just doesn't register ....
There was a real benefit however. The OP learned the technique for scanning and presenting excerpts from his state file which he was obviously pleased about. When he did that, the abnormal LTD suddenly hit me in the face :).
It's the old adage really - you give a person a fish and he can feed himself for a day or you give him a fishing line .... :).
Cheers,
Gary.
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Now that everyone is getting
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Now that everyone is getting WU's again, how about fixing the "server status" page?
Seriously, that's the first page (aside from the main page) that I look at when I visit a project...