Metod, that's interesting. I never new about this kind of problems appearing with new computers as this was my first time I crunched on a new comp... when I attached the laptop it was already running for about a year but I had never had the right kind of internet connection for BOINC. But it sounds entirely plausible. I have noticed a similar phenomenon concerning random probs with applications and the OS not really running stable in maybe the first three weeks or so after an install or reinstall. Maybe because you still change too much about the software or so when the OS is new. I've never agreed with people telling me how great and smooth a brand new Windows installation is. They may be quick, but they have the most reliable phase only after a month or so for maybe half a year or more. So maybe BOINC also reacted to that, who knows.
No, thanks a lot... as a poor student I'm not crazy about playing with my CPU's life ;-) As for the invalid result, you are of course right, it happens. When this PC was new and I had just attached to Einstein it crunched the first WU just fine, the second didn't validate and number 3 crashed with a computation error. Had me a bit worried ^^ but that same comp has been crunching fine ever since. I haven't changed anything about the OS, BOINC client, hardware or whatever and it certainly wasn't heat. I guess I'll never find out where those errors came from, they just seemed to appear out of nowhere...
So, keep on crunching, everyone!
Greetz, Annika
I had the same problem happen to my MacBook--workunits started coming back as validation errors after about 2.5 months crunching. I did several things to solve it: upgraded applications from Einstein S5R1 4.03 to Einstein S5R1 4.28 and (because MacBooks run hot anyway) set the laptop on a baker's cooling rack with a floor fan blowing cold air on it when it is crunching WUs! I haven't had a problem with validation errors since, although my wife isn't thrilled with my use of her baker's rack.
I had the same problem happen to my MacBook--workunits started coming back as validation errors after about 2.5 months crunching. I did several things to solve it: upgraded applications from Einstein S5R1 4.03 to Einstein S5R1 4.28 and (because MacBooks run hot anyway) set the laptop on a baker's cooling rack with a floor fan blowing cold air on it when it is crunching WUs! I haven't had a problem with validation errors since, although my wife isn't thrilled with my use of her baker's rack.
LOL, sounds like a trip to Walmart's in order. :-)
May have to do that myself since one of the built in feet on one of my laptops just gave up the ghost.
"Gave up the ghost"? Do you have that in English, too, or is it a Germanism?
Well, as for the heat problem... my laptop seems to do allright without special equipment, I don't get more invalid results in summer than in winter... and as I said my desktop's prob wasn't heat; I still think it was somehow software-related.
"Gave up the ghost"? Do you have that in English, too, or is it a Germanism?
Well, as for the heat problem... my laptop seems to do allright without special equipment, I don't get more invalid results in summer than in winter... and as I said my desktop's prob wasn't heat; I still think it was somehow software-related.
LOL, I never stopped to think about the origins of the expression. All the the good ones seem to be common to most languages in one way or another though. ;-)
On my laptop it was one of the little feet you popup to change the angle when on a table or desk that broke, no biggie really but it helped let more air underneath and let it run cooler. The baker's rack just sounded like a cheap way to not have to prop it up with junk laying around.
I don't doubt your software glitch hypothesis. It's a Win box after all, so nothing surprises me about seemingly unexplicable malfunctions. :-)
"Gave up the ghost"? Do you have that in English, too, or is it a Germanism?
It's a valid American phrase. Given that American English has been even more agressive about muggging foriegn languages than the British varieties that doesn't neccesarily say anything about the rest of the anglosphere. :)
Well, what I can say for sure is that we have exactly the same phrase in German and until now I thought it was German only. Seems like I was wrong there ;-)
@Alinator: Yeah, Windoze is sth really special ^^ don't we all love it. But I'll at least put my laptop out of its misery soon... as soon as I get word from the manufacturer whether they're going to repair my soundcard on warranty or not (meaning I would have to mail the laptop to them) I'll switch that one to Debian or Gentoo Linux (haven't decided yet; Debian is what I know best and it's safe, but I heard that Gentoo gives more of a performance boost) so it should run smoother than ever. Of course, I'll keep crunching under Linux, so, no need to worry ;-)
Well, what I can say for sure is that we have exactly the same phrase in German and until now I thought it was German only. Seems like I was wrong there ;-)
@Alinator: Yeah, Windoze is sth really special ^^ don't we all love it. But I'll at least put my laptop out of its misery soon... as soon as I get word from the manufacturer whether they're going to repair my soundcard on warranty or not (meaning I would have to mail the laptop to them) I'll switch that one to Debian or Gentoo Linux (haven't decided yet; Debian is what I know best and it's safe, but I heard that Gentoo gives more of a performance boost) so it should run smoother than ever. Of course, I'll keep crunching under Linux, so, no need to worry ;-)
You know now that you mention it my family heritage is German on my father's side, so I may have picked it up from my Grandmother or Great Aunt when I was little. Don't know for sure except it seems to me to be one of those which is "older than dirt". :-)
You know now that you mention it my family heritage is German on my father's side, so I may have picked it up from my Grandmother or Great Aunt when I was little. Don't know for sure except it seems to me to be one of those which is "older than dirt". :-)
So it's from the Bible... that would explain why we all know it ;-) since in both our countries the majority of people is Christian. Interesting to know Randy, thanks for figuring it out...
Metod, that's interesting. I
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Metod, that's interesting. I never new about this kind of problems appearing with new computers as this was my first time I crunched on a new comp... when I attached the laptop it was already running for about a year but I had never had the right kind of internet connection for BOINC. But it sounds entirely plausible. I have noticed a similar phenomenon concerning random probs with applications and the OS not really running stable in maybe the first three weeks or so after an install or reinstall. Maybe because you still change too much about the software or so when the OS is new. I've never agreed with people telling me how great and smooth a brand new Windows installation is. They may be quick, but they have the most reliable phase only after a month or so for maybe half a year or more. So maybe BOINC also reacted to that, who knows.
RE: No, thanks a lot... as
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I had the same problem happen to my MacBook--workunits started coming back as validation errors after about 2.5 months crunching. I did several things to solve it: upgraded applications from Einstein S5R1 4.03 to Einstein S5R1 4.28 and (because MacBooks run hot anyway) set the laptop on a baker's cooling rack with a floor fan blowing cold air on it when it is crunching WUs! I haven't had a problem with validation errors since, although my wife isn't thrilled with my use of her baker's rack.
RE: I had the same
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LOL, sounds like a trip to Walmart's in order. :-)
May have to do that myself since one of the built in feet on one of my laptops just gave up the ghost.
Alinator
"Gave up the ghost"? Do you
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"Gave up the ghost"? Do you have that in English, too, or is it a Germanism?
Well, as for the heat problem... my laptop seems to do allright without special equipment, I don't get more invalid results in summer than in winter... and as I said my desktop's prob wasn't heat; I still think it was somehow software-related.
RE: "Gave up the ghost"? Do
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LOL, I never stopped to think about the origins of the expression. All the the good ones seem to be common to most languages in one way or another though. ;-)
On my laptop it was one of the little feet you popup to change the angle when on a table or desk that broke, no biggie really but it helped let more air underneath and let it run cooler. The baker's rack just sounded like a cheap way to not have to prop it up with junk laying around.
I don't doubt your software glitch hypothesis. It's a Win box after all, so nothing surprises me about seemingly unexplicable malfunctions. :-)
Alinator
RE: "Gave up the ghost"? Do
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It's a valid American phrase. Given that American English has been even more agressive about muggging foriegn languages than the British varieties that doesn't neccesarily say anything about the rest of the anglosphere. :)
Well, what I can say for sure
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Well, what I can say for sure is that we have exactly the same phrase in German and until now I thought it was German only. Seems like I was wrong there ;-)
@Alinator: Yeah, Windoze is sth really special ^^ don't we all love it. But I'll at least put my laptop out of its misery soon... as soon as I get word from the manufacturer whether they're going to repair my soundcard on warranty or not (meaning I would have to mail the laptop to them) I'll switch that one to Debian or Gentoo Linux (haven't decided yet; Debian is what I know best and it's safe, but I heard that Gentoo gives more of a performance boost) so it should run smoother than ever. Of course, I'll keep crunching under Linux, so, no need to worry ;-)
RE: Well, what I can say
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You know now that you mention it my family heritage is German on my father's side, so I may have picked it up from my Grandmother or Great Aunt when I was little. Don't know for sure except it seems to me to be one of those which is "older than dirt". :-)
Alinator
RE: You know now that you
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Google is your friend:
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Seti Classic Final Total: 11446 WU.
So it's from the Bible...
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So it's from the Bible... that would explain why we all know it ;-) since in both our countries the majority of people is Christian. Interesting to know Randy, thanks for figuring it out...