how is this happenning?
15 Jul 2024 11:17:13 UTC
Topic 231305
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According to wuprop, a stats site that tracks the number of hours a user has spent on each app they crunch, showed this today:
| Multi-Directional Gravitational Wave search on O3 (CPU) | 15.23 |
This says that a user, Coleslaw in this case, crunched the above tasks in the last 24 hours using 15.23 hours of CPU time, I thought that there were NO Multi-Directional Gravitational Wave search on 03(CPU) tasks available AT ALL? How is this possible?
not actually possible. there
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not actually possible. there hasn't been any O3MD work for a long time and the project server isnt even configured for them anymore (no WU generator or validator, etc)
most likely an issue with wuprop reporting the something in error, or the user doing something weird to trick wuprop (which apparently isnt that hard since people do all kinds of stuff to trick wuprop just to get the "hours")
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Ian&Steve C. wrote: not
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Thank you, I was pretty sure you'd said before that O3AS does not have cpu tasks. I did not know though that you could 'trick' wuprop into the way it counts hours. That's probably what's happening with the person getting Cosmology hours too then.
Thank you
mikey wrote: Ian&Steve C.
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Why would anyone want to even look at or use 'wuprop' to know what hours their CPU is being used?
It must be a Windows thing. If they wanted to know whether or not their CPU is being used when they are doing other tasks or jobs on the same computer, they could just set the preferences to not do BOINC tasks when the computer is in use by the owner when doing something else.
I dunno... I'm just sayin'...
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GWGeorge007 wrote: Why would
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WUprop is a NCI project. “Hours” is just another metric they use for ranking since the project doesn’t really use resources. Instead of points ranking, they have hours ranking. It runs in the background just monitoring the resources in use by the various BOINC applications. Ram use, VRAM use, etc. and it reports this information back to the project. The project puts all this into a database. The intent is to have a repository of all the various apps and how they use your system. So you can go look and estimate how much memory or other resources you’d need to run some specific project/application.
In practice (IMO), the execution is less than ideal. The results database page is a giant cluster and difficult to read/parse. And undoubtedly the results are being skewed by folks running tons of instances with blank or non-existent work just to register hours for WUProp.
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Ian&Steve C. wrote: In
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Well, for me it's not useful. I know, it is what it is, but I just don't need 'wuprop'. Thanks for the explanation, Ian.
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GWGeorge007 wrote: Ian&Steve
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George remember when you posted how you had TWO pc's over 1 Million credits on Einstein alone, well wuprop doesn't JUST count the hours today it counts the hours for as long as the app is active, ie I have 102K hours in the Arecibo, GBT, Long app, I ALSO have 100K hours in the GRP #5 app, I also have over 72K hours in the GRP #1 app, I also have over 50K hours combined n 12 OTHER Einsten apps.
That's the kind of things wuprop tracks, not just one PC but every PC that crunched the app over the life of the app are added together. CPU and GPU apps are counted separately so even an app like the O3AS app here at Einstein that used to use both the CPU and the GPU they are different apps for each so counted separately.