The most puzzling part of this is that I have 6 Dell Desktops. All Intel i7's. All but one have 16GB of memory. All have fairly new SSD's. All with the latest version of Mint Linux all all have the latest updates. All running boinc and einstein@home. All had boinc installed the same way using Mint Linux "Software Manager". All work fine except this one. I cannot find anything wrong with this one other then this boinc problem. I even did a fresh install of Mint Linux. I am running out of things to try.
I assume you have tried to manually update projects and watched the response in the Event Log?
Have you tried setting http_debug or sched_op_debug in the logging?
Question is whether the client ever attempts to contact projects or whether any attempted contact fails. Logging would show the reason why the failure and would point you to the solution.
Fixed...sort of. As an experiment I blew away everything and installed MX linux. Everything looks different and has a different name. However I figured out what their version of software manager was called and used it to install boinc. Boinc manager started right up, let me choose einstein@home, downloaded work units and is now happily crunching away. I will let things run like this until I have to do a kernel update. I'll do the update, then reboot and see what happens.
Under Mint Linux I don't get that far. Using "Software Manager" I install Boinc. Software Manager believes that the install is successful. Clicking on Administration shows Boinc Manager" clicking on Boinc Manager does nothing. Boinc manager does not come up. There is no opportunity to chose a project or see an event log.
As you can see in my next entry I installed MX linux on that same computer. Using it's "Software Manager" I installed Boinc and just like on Mint Linux Boinc Manager shows up as a choice. Only under MX linux clicking on it works. Up comes the manager and allows me to successfully choose Einstein@home. It then downloads work units and starts crunching them.
It's almost as if Software Manager on Mint linux is installing a Boinc Manager that is defective or for something else.
Under Mint Linux I don't get that far. Using "Software Manager" I install Boinc. Software Manager believes that the install is successful. Clicking on Administration shows Boinc Manager" clicking on Boinc Manager does nothing. Boinc manager does not come up. There is no opportunity to chose a project or see an event log.
As you can see in my next entry I installed MX linux on that same computer. Using it's "Software Manager" I installed Boinc and just like on Mint Linux Boinc Manager shows up as a choice. Only under MX linux clicking on it works. Up comes the manager and allows me to successfully choose Einstein@home. It then downloads work units and starts crunching them.
It's almost as if Software Manager on Mint linux is installing a Boinc Manager that is defective or for something else.
This has been a problem for LM for several versions but because the user base that uses Boinc is sooo small they are concentrating on other 'bugs' fixes instead. As I said earlier in this conversation for me running either the '...-start' or the '...-stop' command works for me depending on the pc. It even works on my Ubuntu pc.
I always use the Synaptic Software Installer to install software in my Linux installs, it will even let me do updates as well.
And see if it fixes your issues with BOINC while still allowing to use your preferred Mint OS?
The problem for me is there is a list of 10 or more OS versions to chose from, 3 ubuntu versions, and none of them are Linux Mint. Which one is the right one and if it's the wrong one will I have to reload the whole thing and start over? Yes I can make an image first etc etc but what I'm using works.
Yes I updated all of my Windows pc's to ver 8.02 but I really don't see much difference between them, though I know there are some.
And see if it fixes your issues with BOINC while still allowing to use your preferred Mint OS?
The problem for me is there is a list of 10 or more OS versions to chose from, 3 ubuntu versions, and none of them are Linux Mint. Which one is the right one and if it's the wrong one will I have to reload the whole thing and start over? Yes I can make an image first etc etc but what I'm using works.
Yes I updated all of my Windows pc's to ver 8.02 but I really don't see much difference between them, though I know there are some.
And see if it fixes your issues with BOINC while still allowing to use your preferred Mint OS?
The problem for me is there is a list of 10 or more OS versions to chose from, 3 ubuntu versions, and none of them are Linux Mint. Which one is the right one and if it's the wrong one will I have to reload the whole thing and start over? Yes I can make an image first etc etc but what I'm using works.
Yes I updated all of my Windows pc's to ver 8.02 but I really don't see much difference between them, though I know there are some.
all Linux Mint Distros are based on Ubuntu.
Linux Mint 21 is based on Ubuntu 22.04
That's not true any longer (for all read most!) -- I keep seeing wingmen running something called Linux Mint LMDE over at WCG, and that is apparently Linux Mint Debian Edition :-)
I wonder if some of the people having trouble have got one or more LMDE installations, especially if they are relatively recent installs? (I'm not a Mint user, so I don't know what the current new install version is...)
And see if it fixes your issues with BOINC while still allowing to use your preferred Mint OS?
The problem for me is there is a list of 10 or more OS versions to chose from, 3 ubuntu versions, and none of them are Linux Mint. Which one is the right one and if it's the wrong one will I have to reload the whole thing and start over? Yes I can make an image first etc etc but what I'm using works.
Yes I updated all of my Windows pc's to ver 8.02 but I really don't see much difference between them, though I know there are some.
all Linux Mint Distros are based on Ubuntu.
Linux Mint 21 is based on Ubuntu 22.04
That's not true any longer (for all read most!) -- I keep seeing wingmen running something called Linux Mint LMDE over at WCG, and that is apparently Linux Mint Debian Edition :-)
I wonder if some of the people having trouble have got one or more LMDE installations, especially if they are relatively recent installs? (I'm not a Mint user, so I don't know what the current new install version is...)
Cheers - Al.
I found this "the fact that Ubuntu is technically based on Debian"
The most puzzling part of
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The most puzzling part of this is that I have 6 Dell Desktops. All Intel i7's. All but one have 16GB of memory. All have fairly new SSD's. All with the latest version of Mint Linux all all have the latest updates. All running boinc and einstein@home. All had boinc installed the same way using Mint Linux "Software Manager". All work fine except this one. I cannot find anything wrong with this one other then this boinc problem. I even did a fresh install of Mint Linux. I am running out of things to try.
Stephen Hawkins
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I assume you have tried to
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I assume you have tried to manually update projects and watched the response in the Event Log?
Have you tried setting http_debug or sched_op_debug in the logging?
Question is whether the client ever attempts to contact projects or whether any attempted contact fails. Logging would show the reason why the failure and would point you to the solution.
Fixed...sort of. As an
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Fixed...sort of. As an experiment I blew away everything and installed MX linux. Everything looks different and has a different name. However I figured out what their version of software manager was called and used it to install boinc. Boinc manager started right up, let me choose einstein@home, downloaded work units and is now happily crunching away. I will let things run like this until I have to do a kernel update. I'll do the update, then reboot and see what happens.
Stephen Hawkins
73 49 111 01001001
Under Mint Linux I don't get
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Under Mint Linux I don't get that far. Using "Software Manager" I install Boinc. Software Manager believes that the install is successful. Clicking on Administration shows Boinc Manager" clicking on Boinc Manager does nothing. Boinc manager does not come up. There is no opportunity to chose a project or see an event log.
As you can see in my next entry I installed MX linux on that same computer. Using it's "Software Manager" I installed Boinc and just like on Mint Linux Boinc Manager shows up as a choice. Only under MX linux clicking on it works. Up comes the manager and allows me to successfully choose Einstein@home. It then downloads work units and starts crunching them.
It's almost as if Software Manager on Mint linux is installing a Boinc Manager that is defective or for something else.
Stephen Hawkins
73 49 111 01001001
Stephen Hawkins wrote: Under
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This has been a problem for LM for several versions but because the user base that uses Boinc is sooo small they are concentrating on other 'bugs' fixes instead. As I said earlier in this conversation for me running either the '...-start' or the '...-stop' command works for me depending on the pc. It even works on my Ubuntu pc.
I always use the Synaptic Software Installer to install software in my Linux installs, it will even let me do updates as well.
I'm glad you got it fixed and are happy now.
So nobody tries the Berkeley
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So nobody tries the Berkeley 8.02 installer provided at Boinc instead of relying on obviously flawed Mint distro versions?
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
And see if it fixes your issues with BOINC while still allowing to use your preferred Mint OS?
Keith Myers wrote: So nobody
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The problem for me is there is a list of 10 or more OS versions to chose from, 3 ubuntu versions, and none of them are Linux Mint. Which one is the right one and if it's the wrong one will I have to reload the whole thing and start over? Yes I can make an image first etc etc but what I'm using works.
Yes I updated all of my Windows pc's to ver 8.02 but I really don't see much difference between them, though I know there are some.
mikey wrote: Keith Myers
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all Linux Mint Distros are based on Ubuntu.
Linux Mint 21 is based on Ubuntu 22.04
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Ian&Steve C. wrote:mikey
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That's not true any longer (for all read most!) -- I keep seeing wingmen running something called Linux Mint LMDE over at WCG, and that is apparently Linux Mint Debian Edition :-)
I wonder if some of the people having trouble have got one or more LMDE installations, especially if they are relatively recent installs? (I'm not a Mint user, so I don't know what the current new install version is...)
Cheers - Al.
alanb1951 wrote: Ian&Steve
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I found this "the fact that Ubuntu is technically based on Debian"