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Keith Myers
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Forgot that the 3000 series

Forgot that the 3000 series FE cards used that crummy 12 pin cable that has caused all the burnt card, cable and power supply issues.  That Y-cable you are using is very suspect.  The connector and pins are very substandard for the intended use.

That cable and connector is actually deprecated now by the PCI-SIG organization.  There is a new standard using better design and connectors. New connector is called 12V-2×6 to replace the 12VHPWR connector.

 

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the original 12-pin cable on

the original 12-pin cable on my one 3080Ti FE is fine and has been running for many months. but i also never touch it or move it or anything. it just goes.

constant manipulation and plugging i could see causing excess wear though.

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If you gone through the YT

If you had gone through the YT GamersNexus article about the issue, they published the specs for the pins in the ATX high power 12 pin cable.

The number of allowed pin-unplug cycles was only 25 cycles or something very low.  You could easily exceed that if you are constantly moving or removing the cards from hosts because of troubleshooting.

I bet Tom has easily exceeded the spec by now.

 

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Keith Myers wrote: If you

Keith Myers wrote:

If you had gone through the YT GamersNexus article about the issue, they published the specs for the pins in the ATX high power 12 pin cable.

The number of allowed pin-unplug cycles was only 25 cycles or something very low.  You could easily exceed that if you are constantly moving or removing the cards from hosts because of troubleshooting.

I bet Tom has easily exceeded the spec by now. 

YES 25 cycles is ridiculous!!

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mikey wrote: Keith Myers

mikey wrote:

Keith Myers wrote:

If you had gone through the YT GamersNexus article about the issue, they published the specs for the pins in the ATX high power 12 pin cable.

The number of allowed pin-unplug cycles was only 25 cycles or something very low.  You could easily exceed that if you are constantly moving or removing the cards from hosts because of troubleshooting.

I bet Tom has easily exceeded the spec by now. 

YES 25 cycles is ridiculous!!

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No it is not. It is actually industry standard for that kind of application & power. ????

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KLiK wrote: mikey

KLiK wrote:

mikey wrote:

Keith Myers wrote:

If you had gone through the YT GamersNexus article about the issue, they published the specs for the pins in the ATX high power 12 pin cable.

The number of allowed pin-unplug cycles was only 25 cycles or something very low.  You could easily exceed that if you are constantly moving or removing the cards from hosts because of troubleshooting.

I bet Tom has easily exceeded the spec by now. 

YES 25 cycles is ridiculous!!

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No it is not. It is actually industry standard for that kind of application & power. ????

I rarely unplugged the Y cable from the gpus.  But at least one showed fraying on the outside of the cable (not the plug proper).  And I much more frequently unplugged/replugged the PSU cable to the Y ends (two cables).  Because the gpus were moved around.

Either way.  Replacing the cables seems to have fixed the reliability issues.  So I don't care.  :)

Tom M

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KLiK wrote: mikey

KLiK wrote:

mikey wrote:

Keith Myers wrote:

If you had gone through the YT GamersNexus article about the issue, they published the specs for the pins in the ATX high power 12 pin cable.

The number of allowed pin-unplug cycles was only 25 cycles or something very low.  You could easily exceed that if you are constantly moving or removing the cards from hosts because of troubleshooting.

I bet Tom has easily exceeded the spec by now. 

YES 25 cycles is ridiculous!!

No it is not. It is actually industry standard for that kind of application & power. ???? 

I'll bet that not one of my pc's has had the gpu plugged and unplugged less than 25 times and I have 17pc's!! Now I do NOT own one of those fancy 12pin gpu cables so maybe the older cables could handle more than that?

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mikey wrote: KLiK

mikey wrote:

KLiK wrote:

mikey wrote:

Keith Myers wrote:

If you had gone through the YT GamersNexus article about the issue, they published the specs for the pins in the ATX high power 12 pin cable.

The number of allowed pin-unplug cycles was only 25 cycles or something very low.  You could easily exceed that if you are constantly moving or removing the cards from hosts because of troubleshooting.

I bet Tom has easily exceeded the spec by now. 

YES 25 cycles is ridiculous!!

No it is not. It is actually industry standard for that kind of application & power. ???? 

I'll bet that not one of my pc's has had the gpu plugged and unplugged less than 25 times and I have 17pc's!! Now I do NOT own one of those fancy 12pin gpu cables so maybe the older cables could handle more than that?

Yes. that is "an amateur answer". Congratulations! ???? 

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mikey wrote:Now I do NOT

mikey wrote:

Now I do NOT own one of those fancy 12pin gpu cables so maybe the older cables could handle more than that?

 

Are you referring to the 16 pin cables (12VHPWR) that are starting to be implemented? If so, I can say that I have not been a fan of using them. In some ways, they make things easier and in other ways, not at all. 

Here is a nice little thing I have been trying to figure out. Nvidia just recently announced the new Ada workstation cards and I was looking at the datasheet for the RTX 4000 Ada (see here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/rtx-4000/ ). Now, I might be crazy, but is that a 16 pin (12VHPWR) connector on it? If so, WHY? It's a 130w GPU. A different article I read said that it used an 8-pin cable so I really have no idea. 

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Boca Raton Community HS

Boca Raton Community HS wrote:

mikey wrote:

Now I do NOT own one of those fancy 12pin gpu cables so maybe the older cables could handle more than that?

 

Are you referring to the 16 pin cables (12VHPWR) that are starting to be implemented? If so, I can say that I have not been a fan of using them. In some ways, they make things easier and in other ways, not at all. 

Here is a nice little thing I have been trying to figure out. Nvidia just recently announced the new Ada workstation cards and I was looking at the datasheet for the RTX 4000 Ada (see here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/rtx-4000/ ). Now, I might be crazy, but is that a 16 pin (12VHPWR) connector on it? If so, WHY? It's a 130w GPU. A different article I read said that it used an 8-pin cable so I really have no idea.  

When I blow up the picture it gets blurry but it does look like a 4 pin plug and then a 2nd plug with a double row or pins that are more than 4 across.

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