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Tom M wrote: Another problem

Tom M wrote:

Another problem besides the single memory slot is the odd way the motherboard is powered. All pcie plugs. So many you would need the peripheral to pcie adapters to get enough off one power supply.

The description of this product offers a lot of advice on how it needs to be setup.

Tom M

Never use those adapters, they do not provide the full current, they drop voltage and melt or tarnish very quickly.  Cut off some ends and fit proper plugs.

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Ian&Steve C. wrote: 4GB

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4GB system memory is largely not enough for most projects. Especially if you’re trying to run that many GPUs. To compete for top spot on Einstein right now, you need to be running petris app, which uses like 1GB system ram PER TASK. 8GPUs, 2x per GPU = 16 tasks = 16GB system memory minimum. And to be honest I would want more overhead. That board looks like it only has one SODIMM slot for memory. And the lack of detailed specs is a little concerning (CPU listed as just “intel”, intel what exactly?), does the board support updating the memory? Too many unknowns. 
 

realistically this is not a viable option for anything other than mining crypto. Too many constraints on the CPU/memory to be useful for anything else. 

The mining board I just bought takes normal memory.  Up to 2 x 32GB DDR4.  Not the 4 x 32GB I'm used to, but good enough.

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Tom M wrote:The advantage

Tom M wrote:

The advantage of this MB is it has usb3 ports right off the MB. Which is one less moving part per gpu connection. The disadvantage is lga 1151 6th/7th gen CPUs (4c/8t).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134400855162?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=m4quzl4itzu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=PAS42sWPTnG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I've seen 1151 CPUs with way more cores than that.  Here's a complete list:

https://www.cpu-list.com/lga1151-v2-cpu-list/eng/

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Peter Hucker wrote: I've

Peter Hucker wrote:

I've seen 1151 CPUs with way more cores than that.  Here's a complete list:

https://www.cpu-list.com/lga1151-v2-cpu-list/eng/

Peter,

Unfortunately, there are two versions of the Lga 1151 socket.  One for gen 6th and 7th cpus.  And one for 8th and 9th gen cpus.  8/9 won't run on 6/7 sockets.  Which is why I mentioned 4c/8t.

Tom M

 

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Tom M wrote:Unfortunately,

Tom M wrote:
Unfortunately, there are two versions of the Lga 1151 socket.  One for gen 6th and 7th cpus.  And one for 8th and 9th gen cpus.  8/9 won't run on 6/7 sockets.  Which is why I mentioned 4c/8t.

I must have been lucky and never come across that.  Or is this the only socket with two versions?  Are they physically different or would it plug in and make me think something was broken?  Intel really should have called it 1151v2.  I assume I can plug a 6/7 CPU into an 8/9 socket?

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Peter Hucker wrote: I assume

Peter Hucker wrote:

I assume I can plug a 6/7 CPU into an 8/9 socket?

Assume nothing...  check the specific motherboard for info to confirm what generation CPU you need for what MB.

George

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GWGeorge007 wrote:Peter

GWGeorge007 wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote:

I assume I can plug a 6/7 CPU into an 8/9 socket?

Assume nothing...  check the specific motherboard for info to confirm what generation CPU you need for what MB.

Looks like a monumental Intel screwup.  Wikipedia states they are to be treated as two different sockets, as the pins have changed!  It physically fits but the electrics are different!  Pure and utter insanity!

Second revision of the LGA 1151 socket for Coffee Lake CPUs[edit]

The LGA 1151 socket was revised for the Coffee Lake generation CPUs and comes along with the Intel 300-series chipsets.[33] While physical dimensions remain unchanged, the updated socket reassigns some reserved pins, adding power and ground lines to support the requirements of 6-core and 8-core CPUs. The new socket also relocates the processor detection pin, breaking compatibility with earlier processors and motherboards. As a result, desktop Coffee Lake CPUs are officially not compatible with the 100 (original Skylake) and 200 (Kaby Lake) series chipsets.[34] Similarly, 300 series chipsets officially only support Coffee Lake and are not compatible with Skylake and Kaby Lake CPUs.

Socket 1151 rev 2 is sometimes also referred to as "1151-2".

Luckily I happened to buy a Skylake CPU which will work in the Esonic B250 BTC Gladiator motherboard.

I normally use AMD stuff, I've never known them make two identical incompatible sockets..

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Peter Hucker wrote:I

Peter Hucker wrote:

I normally use AMD stuff, I've never known them make two identical incompatible sockets..

SP3/TR4/sTRX4/sWRX8 ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_SP3

AMD does it too

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That's a server-spec CPU

That's a server-spec CPU socket.  They can be slightly more forgiven for that, since people building servers would do more research.  But for a desktop level board where anyone could be building a machine for their home, unforgivable.  I must have built about 150 PCs from scratch in my life, and I've never come across such nonsense.

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Threadripper is not

Threadripper is not (intended) for servers. 

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