Merging not permanent, always creates new computer ID.

Magiceye04
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I have updated my Ubuntu to a newer kernel. https://einsteinathome.org/host/12777128

After this Einstein created a new computer ID for this machine. I tried to merge them several times. It works, but just until the next server contact. Then Einstein creates again a new computer-ID. How can I prevent this? Why is the merging not permanent?

This is the latest "new" machine. https://einsteinathome.org/host/13066872

Universe@Home is running on the same machine and has not created any new IDs.

Keith Myers
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Best directed at the admins. 

Best directed at the admins.  The two computer ID's don't overlap so the latest creation should have been merged with the original host.

 

mikey
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Magiceye04 wrote: I have

Magiceye04 wrote:

I have updated my Ubuntu to a newer kernel. https://einsteinathome.org/host/12777128

After this Einstein created a new computer ID for this machine. I tried to merge them several times. It works, but just until the next server contact. Then Einstein creates again a new computer-ID. How can I prevent this? Why is the merging not permanent?

This is the latest "new" machine. https://einsteinathome.org/host/13066872

Universe@Home is running on the same machine and has not created any new IDs. 

Have you tried merging the new host into the old host? Because it sounds like you are merging the old host into the new host. Or does it not matter and a new ID is just created either way?

Magiceye04
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mikey schrieb: Have you

mikey wrote:

Have you tried merging the new host into the old host?

It depends from the point of view. "into" has too many interpretations for me.

 

I see 2 ways - maybe only one way is the correct one?

1. take the new host, goto merge and select the old host.

2. take the old host, goto merge and select the new host.

 

I think, I have tried both ways in the meantime.

Magiceye04
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Maybe I was now successful

Maybe I was now successful with the first option. *crossing fingers*

Bad is, the history is lost now. The new host is created today and got all the credits from the old host. The stats pages will be confused.

mikey
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Magiceye04 wrote: mikey

Magiceye04 wrote:

mikey wrote:

Have you tried merging the new host into the old host?

It depends from the point of view. "into" has too many interpretations for me.

 

I see 2 ways - maybe only one way is the correct one?

1. take the new host, goto merge and select the old host.

2. take the old host, goto merge and select the new host.

 

I think, I have tried both ways in the meantime. 

I too have tried both but don't remember which one preserves the old number, I saw somewhere someone talked about keeping their old numbers by changing something in Boinc, maybe Keith Myers knows about that, me I really don't care about those numbers

Keith Myers
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The merge process only works

The merge process only works one way.  It merges the old host into the new hostID.  It assumes the credits from the old host but loses the original creation date.

The only way to go the other way involves editing the client_state.xml file and changing the hostID to the original hostID.  That preserves the original creation date and the total host credits since the host was created.

I've kept the original hostID and creation date on most of my PC's since they were created even though the hardware and even the OS has changed from Windows to Linux multiple times. But I had to do it via the client_state.xml edit which is not recommended for most people and only for experienced BOINC users.

 

mikey
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Keith Myers wrote: The merge

Keith Myers wrote:

The merge process only works one way.  It merges the old host into the new hostID.  It assumes the credits from the old host but loses the original creation date.

The only way to go the other way involves editing the client_state.xml file and changing the hostID to the original hostID.  That preserves the original creation date and the total host credits since the host was created.

I've kept the original hostID and creation date on most of my PC's since they were created even though the hardware and even the OS has changed from Windows to Linux multiple times. But I had to do it via the client_state.xml edit which is not recommended for most people and only for experienced BOINC users.

Thanks Keith!!

Magiceye04
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Thanks for the

Thanks for the explanation.

Until today I got no new ID, so everything is fine now. :)

mikey
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Magiceye04 wrote: Thanks for

Magiceye04 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation.

Until today I got no new ID, so everything is fine now. :) 

WOO HOO!!

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