Please use these boards only for messages related to BOINC software: questions, bug reports, feature requests, etc.
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so just go there and read, or post a problem, if you don't see it described anywhere!
So nobody are obliged to be content with the help they can get here, there are many qualified people out there to help!
Yes, that means do not bother the Boinc boards with problems that are related to project apps. It does not mean that the Boinc boards are the ONLY place to take up Boinc problems. Having looked over the Boinc boards every day or two, I've seen precious little reference to the 5.x.x client, which was quite disappointing.
The Boinc dev board would be the best place for paperdragon to post his report, as it seems he has found a genuine bug.
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Please use these boards only for messages related to BOINC software: questions, bug reports, feature requests, etc.
Posting to these boards requires creating an account. You don't need an account to read.
so just go there and read, or post a problem, if you don't see it described anywhere!
So nobody are obliged to be content with the help they can get here, there are many qualified people out there to help!
Thank you, Fuzzy
To clarify, that means do not bother the Boinc boards with problems that are related to project apps. It does not mean that the Boinc boards are the ONLY place to take up Boinc problems. Having looked over the Boinc boards every day or two, I've seen precious little reference to the 5.x.x client, which was quite disappointing.
The Boinc dev board would be the best place for paperdragon to post his report, as it seems he has found a genuine bug.
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Well you will be glad to know that Einstein is crunching away happily, screensaver working well as well as the other functions that I need as a dial-up cruncher. I do have one issue, tho whether this is BOINC, the Einstein client or the Einstein web server I am not sure. Quite simply, as you know I am testing Einstein alongside Climate. At least that was the idea. It seems that the new system remembers WUs that I discarded when I wanted to start from scratch, so I now have the original eight Einstein WUs (deadline 31st Oct)that came with the latest installation of BOINC, Einstein and Climate. I also have been given another 24 Einstein WUs to crunch for deadline 30th Oct ! I would imagine that I could get them done if this box runs 24/7, but would have to not do any gaming for the next 2 weeks (ulp), nor any other cpu heavy stuff. Funnily enough this seemed to happen with SETI too (even with - my box seemed to be "over committed" there too. The only way around this seems to be to tell the app to not get new work for a while. Obviously, with reference to your previous comment, Einstein is getting all the time because there are so many WUs for Einstein to do, so cannot comment on the time management as yet - will report back when the starts to happen. I'm doing just over 2 Einstein WUs at the moment per 24 hours, so this may be a while
Well you will be glad to know that Einstein is crunching away happily, screensaver working well as well as the other functions that I need as a dial-up cruncher. I do have one issue, tho whether this is BOINC, the Einstein client or the Einstein web server I am not sure. Quite simply, as you know I am testing Einstein alongside Climate. At least that was the idea. It seems that the new system remembers WUs that I discarded when I wanted to start from scratch, so I now have the original eight Einstein WUs (deadline 31st Oct)that came with the latest installation of BOINC, Einstein and Climate. I also have been given another 24 Einstein WUs to crunch for deadline 30th Oct ! I would imagine that I could get them done if this box runs 24/7, but would have to not do any gaming for the next 2 weeks (ulp), nor any other cpu heavy stuff. Funnily enough this seemed to happen with SETI too (even with - my box seemed to be "over committed" there too. The only way around this seems to
Gray,
Thanks for posting back.
The problem you are now experiencing, tons of WUs, is most likely caused by deleting the Boinc folder prior to installing the new client. Had you done the "install&uninstall dance" that Uncle Billy Gates taught you, and left it at that, the new Boinc would have recognized your pending workload and deferred downloading more than your preferences requested. These "legacy" WUs, the ones left over from your previous Boinc, are still listed on the server as assigned to you. However, my guess is that they do not show up in your manager, but only on your account webpages, right? When you "trashed" the Boinc folder, along with it went the datafiles that were in the projects folder for Einstein and Climate, so Einstein and Climate can no longer "slice" off WUs from them. This really isn't a problem. :-) They will simply stay listed on the servers until past deadline and then be re-assigned to another host. The only WUs that are "on your table" are the newly downloaded ones, for Climate and Einstein. So feel free to get your game on.
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Well you will be glad to know that Einstein is crunching away happily, screensaver working well as well as the other functions that I need as a dial-up cruncher. I do have one issue, tho whether this is BOINC, the Einstein client or the Einstein web server I am not sure. Quite simply, as you know I am testing Einstein alongside Climate. At least that was the idea. It seems that the new system remembers WUs that I discarded when I wanted to start from scratch, so I now have the original eight Einstein WUs (deadline 31st Oct)that came with the latest installation of BOINC, Einstein and Climate. I also have been given another 24 Einstein WUs to crunch for deadline 30th Oct ! I would imagine that I could get them done if this box runs 24/7, but would have to not do any gaming for the next 2 weeks (ulp), nor any other cpu heavy stuff. Funnily enough this seemed to happen with SETI too (even with - my box seemed to be "over committed" there too. The only way around this seems to
Gray,
Thanks for posting back.
The problem you are now experiencing, tons of WUs, is most likely caused by deleting the Boinc folder prior to installing the new client. Had you done the "install&uninstall dance" that Uncle Billy Gates taught you, and left it at that, the new Boinc would have recognized your pending workload and deferred downloading more than your preferences requested. These "legacy" WUs, the ones left over from your previous Boinc, are still listed on the server as assigned to you. However, my guess is that they do not show up in your manager, but only on your account webpages, right? When you "trashed" the Boinc folder, along with it went the datafiles that were in the projects folder for Einstein and Climate, so Einstein and Climate can no longer "slice" off WUs from them. This really isn't a problem. :-) They will simply stay listed on the servers until past deadline and then be re-assigned to another host. The only WUs that are "on your table" are the newly downloaded ones, for Climate and Einstein. So feel free to get your game on.
Michael
Thanks for that Michael - the reason for deleteing the folder was to ensure a clean install - after years of installing new apps or new versions in windows, even same version but a fresh install, I am wary of using the same folder again. I wanted to be sure that any issues I found were related to the current installtion and not a throwback to the other. Anyhow I'll do my best to wade through the WUs and then slip in a game here and there, possibly using an old game with low CPU usage - gotta get that fix someplace :) . I think I could get them done, but might have to spend my time coding instead (text editor is VERY low CPU usage...)
Well you will be glad to know that Einstein is crunching away happily, screensaver working well as well as the other functions that I need as a dial-up cruncher. I do have one issue, tho whether this is BOINC, the Einstein client or the Einstein web server I am not sure. Quite simply, as you know I am testing Einstein alongside Climate. At least that was the idea. It seems that the new system remembers WUs that I discarded when I wanted to start from scratch, so I now have the original eight Einstein WUs (deadline 31st Oct)that came with the latest installation of BOINC, Einstein and Climate. I also have been given another 24 Einstein WUs to crunch for deadline 30th Oct ! I would imagine that I could get them done if this box runs 24/7, but would have to not do any gaming for the next 2 weeks (ulp), nor any other cpu heavy stuff. Funnily enough this seemed to happen with SETI too (even with - my box seemed to be "over committed" there too. The only way around this seems to
Gray,
Thanks for posting back.
The problem you are now experiencing, tons of WUs, is most likely caused by deleting the Boinc folder prior to installing the new client. Had you done the "install&uninstall dance" that Uncle Billy Gates taught you, and left it at that, the new Boinc would have recognized your pending workload and deferred downloading more than your preferences requested. These "legacy" WUs, the ones left over from your previous Boinc, are still listed on the server as assigned to you. However, my guess is that they do not show up in your manager, but only on your account webpages, right? When you "trashed" the Boinc folder, along with it went the datafiles that were in the projects folder for Einstein and Climate, so Einstein and Climate can no longer "slice" off WUs from them. This really isn't a problem. :-) They will simply stay listed on the servers until past deadline and then be re-assigned to another host. The only WUs that are "on your table" are the newly downloaded ones, for Climate and Einstein. So feel free to get your game on.
Michael
Thanks for that Michael - the reason for deleteing the folder was to ensure a clean install - after years of installing new apps or new versions in windows, even same version but a fresh install, I am wary of using the same folder again. I wanted to be sure that any issues I found were related to the current installtion and not a throwback to the other. Anyhow I'll do my best to wade through the WUs and then slip in a game here and there, possibly using an old game with low CPU usage - gotta get that fix someplace :) . I think I could get them done, but might have to spend my time coding instead (text editor is VERY low CPU usage...)
cheers - Gray
Umm just re-read your post Michael - Nope all the WUs are sitting happily in the manager and in fact Einstein started the original first of 8 that came with the most recent install, and then around the 50% mark suddenly realised that there were the 24-odd more urgent ones and started on those, of which two have been done and uploaded after 24 hours.
Just another comment - the new version of BOINC seems to be more accurate with regard to guesstimation of time to complete a WU - accurate to nigh on a minute or so in fact - 4.45 generally was inaccurate by around an hour and more, even when the PC was just left to it's own devices for a couple of days
I'm really surprised that the old WUs remain. You may be able to get a little headroom by aborting one of the older WUs each day. This will be reported as "client error" and will reduce your "maximum daily WU quota per CPU" by one for each WU aborted during a calendar day, but will only be reduced for one day, after which it will be raised by 1 or 2, until it returns to the value in your preferences. Don't overdo this on any one day, because if taken too far, it can cause you to not get any new work for another day. In this way you can cull unwanted WUs, say, those which shape up to return low granted credit.
Regards,
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Just another comment - the new version of BOINC seems to be more accurate with regard to guesstimation of time to complete a WU - accurate to nigh on a minute or so in fact - 4.45 generally was inaccurate by around an hour and more, even when the PC was just left to it's own devices for a couple of days
Gray
Gray,
Sorry, we crossed entries there. Yes, I noticed that WUs in line to start crunching have extremely accurate To Completion estimates. I also noticed (see some of my earlier entries) that once crunching begins, the estimation for that particular WU becomes crazy. See if this occurs with yours - if not, it may just be an abberation with my setup.
Regards,
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
RE: ...on the
)
Yes, that means do not bother the Boinc boards with problems that are related to project apps. It does not mean that the Boinc boards are the ONLY place to take up Boinc problems. Having looked over the Boinc boards every day or two, I've seen precious little reference to the 5.x.x client, which was quite disappointing.
The Boinc dev board would be the best place for paperdragon to post his report, as it seems he has found a genuine bug.
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
RE: RE: ...on the
)
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Hello Michael Well you
)
Hello Michael
Well you will be glad to know that Einstein is crunching away happily, screensaver working well as well as the other functions that I need as a dial-up cruncher. I do have one issue, tho whether this is BOINC, the Einstein client or the Einstein web server I am not sure. Quite simply, as you know I am testing Einstein alongside Climate. At least that was the idea. It seems that the new system remembers WUs that I discarded when I wanted to start from scratch, so I now have the original eight Einstein WUs (deadline 31st Oct)that came with the latest installation of BOINC, Einstein and Climate. I also have been given another 24 Einstein WUs to crunch for deadline 30th Oct ! I would imagine that I could get them done if this box runs 24/7, but would have to not do any gaming for the next 2 weeks (ulp), nor any other cpu heavy stuff. Funnily enough this seemed to happen with SETI too (even with - my box seemed to be "over committed" there too. The only way around this seems to be to tell the app to not get new work for a while. Obviously, with reference to your previous comment, Einstein is getting all the time because there are so many WUs for Einstein to do, so cannot comment on the time management as yet - will report back when the starts to happen. I'm doing just over 2 Einstein WUs at the moment per 24 hours, so this may be a while
cheers - Gray
RE: Hello Michael Well you
)
Gray,
Thanks for posting back.
The problem you are now experiencing, tons of WUs, is most likely caused by deleting the Boinc folder prior to installing the new client. Had you done the "install&uninstall dance" that Uncle Billy Gates taught you, and left it at that, the new Boinc would have recognized your pending workload and deferred downloading more than your preferences requested. These "legacy" WUs, the ones left over from your previous Boinc, are still listed on the server as assigned to you. However, my guess is that they do not show up in your manager, but only on your account webpages, right? When you "trashed" the Boinc folder, along with it went the datafiles that were in the projects folder for Einstein and Climate, so Einstein and Climate can no longer "slice" off WUs from them. This really isn't a problem. :-) They will simply stay listed on the servers until past deadline and then be re-assigned to another host. The only WUs that are "on your table" are the newly downloaded ones, for Climate and Einstein. So feel free to get your game on.
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
Just a note - version 5.2.2
)
Just a note - version 5.2.2 is now out for those who are interested
Gray
RE: RE: Hello
)
Thanks for that Michael - the reason for deleteing the folder was to ensure a clean install - after years of installing new apps or new versions in windows, even same version but a fresh install, I am wary of using the same folder again. I wanted to be sure that any issues I found were related to the current installtion and not a throwback to the other. Anyhow I'll do my best to wade through the WUs and then slip in a game here and there, possibly using an old game with low CPU usage - gotta get that fix someplace :) . I think I could get them done, but might have to spend my time coding instead (text editor is VERY low CPU usage...)
cheers - Gray
RE: RE: RE: Hello
)
Umm just re-read your post Michael - Nope all the WUs are sitting happily in the manager and in fact Einstein started the original first of 8 that came with the most recent install, and then around the 50% mark suddenly realised that there were the 24-odd more urgent ones and started on those, of which two have been done and uploaded after 24 hours.
Gray
Just another comment - the
)
Just another comment - the new version of BOINC seems to be more accurate with regard to guesstimation of time to complete a WU - accurate to nigh on a minute or so in fact - 4.45 generally was inaccurate by around an hour and more, even when the PC was just left to it's own devices for a couple of days
Gray
Gray, I'm really surprised
)
Gray,
I'm really surprised that the old WUs remain. You may be able to get a little headroom by aborting one of the older WUs each day. This will be reported as "client error" and will reduce your "maximum daily WU quota per CPU" by one for each WU aborted during a calendar day, but will only be reduced for one day, after which it will be raised by 1 or 2, until it returns to the value in your preferences. Don't overdo this on any one day, because if taken too far, it can cause you to not get any new work for another day. In this way you can cull unwanted WUs, say, those which shape up to return low granted credit.
Regards,
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK
RE: Just another comment -
)
Gray,
Sorry, we crossed entries there. Yes, I noticed that WUs in line to start crunching have extremely accurate To Completion estimates. I also noticed (see some of my earlier entries) that once crunching begins, the estimation for that particular WU becomes crazy. See if this occurs with yours - if not, it may just be an abberation with my setup.
Regards,
Michael
microcraft
"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice" - MLK