I'm a happy cruncher NOW !
29 Sep 2005 16:39:02 UTC
Topic 189946
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Thank you all my friends in Cafe Einstein , not only "grace" to all your care and attention i could become a cruncher , but i could even observe the fabulous graphics of Einstein and Seti . It's enough for me even with my famous 0.00 credits (LOL)
Cheers, Warm Regards to all
Ariane
I'm a happy cruncher NOW !
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I have been silently following your progress and I congratulate you on your efforts. I also congratulate Gary and Michael, et al. for so unselfishly devoting their time to help you. I would like to add one more small piece of advice to what has already been provided. I noticed your first work unit results are listed as "Client error". There are several reasons why this may have happened and so what I am about to suggest may not apply to this particular failure. However, there is a "graphics" bug you may encounter because you are running BOINC 4.45 and Einstein 4.79. A symptom of this bug shows up as "Client error Computing" messages when results are reported. If you start encountering repeated failures of this type, you should consider changing to the Beta Application (the link is under More Information on the E@H home page). I switched to the Beta App about 6 weeks ago and it cured the "Client error" problems I was experiencing. Good luck and happy crunching!
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Thank you Stick for your advice, yes i noticed it too "client error..", for the moment i'm not very familiar with all of this , i will wait until the end of the computation of works i see on Boinc and will wait the results, perhaps later things will become clear to me .
It is true that i owe all of this to Gary and Michael, i expressed already my gratitude to both and also to all the nice people in Cafe Einstein , i hope good luck to you too .
Ariane
Ariane, I didn't intend to
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Ariane,
I didn't intend to do it when I first started but I ended up writing a fairly detailed set of instruction on how to diagnose the "Client error" that you got on your first result. It's over in the other thread. I'd be interested to know if those instructions are "understandable" from your point of view. You probably need to keep an eye on the messages that pass through your messages window. Hopefully most will be just the normal "chatty" information that BOINC provides. I think anything serious will appear coloured red so please respond to any of those by posting them here if you wish.
This thread should become the famous "Ariane's Progress" :). I want 10% of the movie rights when you sell them!! :).
Cheers,
Gary.
RE: Ariane, I didn't
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Dear Gary , first of all congrats for your new responsibility as moderator, second thank you again for all your care.Before going to wiki checking all you told me about the client error, i post this just to tell you that my internet connection is made by internet cards, by dial up, and we have always phone line troubles and disconnections are very usual for different reasons. Sometimes i'm disconnected because of the expiration of my card , so i should use a new card .Each card has 20 hours of credits , normally i use 5 or 6 hours of internet connection daily ( i should also add that internet is very expensive here, almost 60$US / month , and this amount is the half of my monthly pension income, i spend it joyfully because without internet i feel myself like a miserable orphan ). For the electricity, we have always problems , electricity cuts surprise no one here , for example yesterday while i was downloading the Boinc , i was interrupted 3 times , once for the expiration of my card, and then our quarter have been powerless for more than 3 hours, so i left the work and waited for the connection . You see we have usually this sort of troubles and it surprises no one because it's a part of our way of life.
I will do all to improve my skills and knowledge in this field.
Oh! about the movie rights, you re too modest Gary, only 10%? The whole movie pertains to you , you have the 100% of rights ! (LOL)
I forgot to tell you that i can leave the pc connected to power almost all day, i mean 12 h minimum .
Cheers
Ariane
Ariane, I had wondered if
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Ariane,
I had wondered if power and connectivity problems were in fact the root cause of your Client error. From what you describe, I am now almost certain. The nice thing about BOINC is that it is designed to be fault tolerant. You can kick it in the guts and it will just pick itself up off the floor and keep going. The installation would have been difficult because of the large volume of data to be downloaded. At crappy modem speeds, it probably took quite a while. Now that the initial downloading is done, you should have some days of solid crunching before BOINC will need to get a large data file again. Unfortunately, because at 50% resource share it may take up to 6-10 days to fully complete the EAH result, even if you do leave your machine on for most of the day.
I've just checked your results list and everything is looking good. There have been no further client errors. Can you please do this for me? Go to the work tab in your BOINC Manager and you should see two projects, Einstein@Home and Seti@Home. I'm interested in knowing the CPU time, the Progress %, and the time to completion for the current work unit for each project. Can you report those numbers back please?
Also, with those % values likely to be low at the moment you can suspend your internet connection and disconnect your modem, whilst leaving your computer happily crunching away. You could save a lot of internet time that way. You only need to be connected when one of the results gets to 100% and needs to be reported back to the server. Do you follow what I'm saying?
With regard to the movie rights, I thought 10% was fair because of the fact that the appeal of the movie will rest largely with the human interest surrounding the story of the poor defenceless woman warding off the ravages of a rampant, mind numbing computer technology threatening to swallow her up!! But the heroine wins through in the end!! :). Maybe you could get Jane Fonda to take the part!! :). Anyway, you will need the 90% to pay for your internet connection!!
Seriously, please keep us all informed with how things progress and ... Good Luck!!!
PS: If the movie rights fall through you could always send a message to Mrs anon asking her if she received the 10 bucks I sent her the other day when she was offering those 1000-1 odds!!! :).
Cheers,
Gary.
Arlene, You should be
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Arlene,
You should be happy to know that one of my other editors suggested adding Gary to the editor list for the BOINC Wiki I started. So, because we now know he has PLENTY of time free ... he is not an authorized editor ...
Second, I know it will be difficult for you with more limited access to the Internet, but, there is a wealth of information in the Wiki gathered from nearly 2 years of working with BOINC. Note, please that an awful lot of this information is gathered by finding out about something good, then my "stealing" it for my own purposes.
In this case, I grabbed the mini-lecture on error messages and added it to the Wiki. I did a little normalization to use the normal names we use in the Wiki so that you can follow the links to the explanation of each an every unique term used in BOINC (and a lot of common ones too). The new "How-To" Guide is entitiled "Messages, Discovering the Meaning of The Message Tab's Contents".
It probably could use some more changes to smooth it out more ... but, we at least have captured the essence, and it has also been added to the mini-guide "Using The Unofficial BOINC Wiki - An Overview"; which I suggest, time and connection permitting you may want to look at.
Anyway, welcome to BOINC ... and the BOINC Wiki ... :)
Dear Gary , the report of
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Dear Gary , the report of those numbers are the following, of course Seti is running and Einstein is preempted :
For EAH : CPU time : 01:04:13 , Progress : 1.07 % , time to completion : 99:22:43 . Today the status of EAH has been Preempted.
For SAH : CPU time: 10:33:22 always in progression
Progress : 33.18 % always in progression
Time to completion : 21:15:55 always in regression
Status : Running
I post this first .
Cheers
Ariane
RE: Dear Gary , the report
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The reason why Seti is getting most of the time is due to the way BOINC works. BOINC has determined that Seti needs to have more time at the moment. BOINC will keep track of time and will give EAH its fair share according to your resource shares. The completion times are somewhat larger then I had hoped so we will make a few adjustments in order to help the situation a bit.
First of all, go to the projects tab in BOINC manager and confirm that each project is listed as having a 50%/50% share of your resources. If this is not true it might be the reason why Seti is getting more time at the moment. Because EAH takes much longer to crunch than Seti, we need to give EAH a greater share of the resources to help it keep up with Seti.
From the figures you have listed, EAH will take around 100 hrs and Seti will take around 32 hours. The total cpu time for the two results to complete is therefore 132 hours. EAH needs around 75% of that 132 hours and Seti needs around 25% of that 132 hours. Considering the 14 day deadline, to finish both results you need to be crunching at least 10 hours per day to achieve that. 12 to 14 hours per day would be safer and if you can do that all should be OK. The 100hr estimate for EAH may reduce a bit as crunching proceeds. Hopefully it wont get too much worse.
If I were you I would set my resource shares to 70% EAH and 30% SAH so that the percentage done of each result will maintain something like level pegging and both should finish inside the deadline and at about the same time. If you need instructions on how to set the resource shares (you have to go to each website and adjust the project specific preferences) then let me know. However please tell me if they are currently 50/50 as mentioned above, thanks.
Cheers,
Gary.
RE: Dear Gary , the report
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Hello again dear Gary , of course i follow exactly what you are saying about my internet connection and the natural work of the 2 projects without internet . Today i just let the projects to work , because Friday is our week end and i had a lot of house work etc... and a lot of action movies to watch at TV, so my pc was idle until now.
About Mrs.anon, she's really very funny, she makes me always rolling on the floor of laughs.
And the movie ! I offer all the 100% of rights to you, really you deserve them, for my part i'm a yogi, i learned to manage life with a minimum and having always enough, i can afford my internet expenses, don't worry for that . But "en ce qui concerne Jane Fonda" , i think she's a bit old for this role, she's now almost 67 or 68 and i'm 53, i would prefer choosing for this role a middle aged strong actress, a sort of spider woman , an adventurer facing and overcoming all sort of obstacles and traps and having always "plus d'un tour dans son sac", and finally winning the "Great Honor Prize"(LOL), anyway thank you for the compliment.
Now before leaving the internet for watching some other action movie , i 'll go to see my account and doing what you told me previously , just to see "de quoi il s'agit cette histoire de Client error ".
Cheers
Ariane
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Oh Gary , i read just now your post , yes they are exactly 50 /50 on my boinc manager , i will go now setting the resource shares and will adjust as you told me 70% EAH and 30% SAH. OK , just now .
Ariane