I only fly BA or AA, I would never fly on an Asian airline.
You talk about AA as though it were owned by the United States government and therefore must be superior to all others based here. It isn't. It's the biggest US airline, but it's just a corporation like United, Delta, Southwest, Alaska, etc. From Wikipedia: Through the airline's parent company, American Airlines Group, it is publicly traded under NASDAQ: AAL.
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
@Mike - OK thanks for the info on Auto pilots, I thought that they did landings as well. I know that take offs are manual with the usual V1, V2, rotate etc. I was also surprised that something the size of an A380 can get thrown about so much in clear air turbulence, twice over Canada on the way home the stewardesses all strapped themselves in. I was at the rear of the upper cabin. The seats forward are all the expensive ones.
@David - I only fly BA and AA because I collect their air miles from the same scheme they are both in. I have 20,000 now. Internal Air Canada flights didn't count, nor did US Airways in 2011.
@Annie - "Whatever you want to do for it is fiiiiiiiiiiiiine, Chris. I'm sure Randy won't mind :)" Not with my legs sweetheart :-(( As for Thai airlines the hostesses are gorgeous, but the flight deck crew all look about 5' tall can they see over the top of the instrument panel?
"somewhere above the ground with nothing beneath you and it apart from a few other bits with rivets and whatnot is technically hair raising enough to put anyone off flying at all. Yet we still do."
Think of the flight crew in their secret hideaway in the luggage compartment of an A380. Even less under their feet than the passengers! And the real fun bit in flying is when you have just smiled sweetly at the BA Stewardess and blagged an extra 1/3 bottle of wine, only to have the full glass end up in your lap when the plane hits turbulence. Should be on everyone's tick list of life's experiences!
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
I was also surprised that something the size of an A380 can get thrown about so much in clear air turbulence
Sure is. I've been over desert on a hot afternoon in a Cessna - back of NSW in summer - and every 10-15 km is a convection cell. What a roller coaster ! Without altering settings the plane can go up and down over a thousand feet as one alternately crosses volumes of rising or falling air. The key thing was not to micro manage that too much, rather better to keep your eyes outside of the plane in case someone else is having the same trouble ..... :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Would an improvised congratulatory dance ceremony include a grass skirt, banging a drum, a spear, and a Lei, and a conga round round the local Cul de Sac??
Whatever you want to do for it is fiiiiiiiiiiiiine, Chris. I'm sure Randy won't mind :)
No, not at all. BUT it won't trigger a win for you.
I was purchased a handful of helicopter flying lessons by my dear lady wife some two years ago. There was much to remember just leaving the ground.
Interesting vernacular my dear Sir. Sounds a pleasant diversity that you engaged in there, and I trust that you enjoyed it to its full potential, and landed safely. Trouble is that these days not many people have their feet on the ground.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Would it trigger a win if I worked "sasquatch" into a post? Sasparilla? Cabernet sauvignon? A left toin at Albukoique? All of the above in a single post?
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
surprised that something the size of an A380 can get thrown about so much
That is an interesting point. Aircraft jump about when the wind that strikes them changes velocity (a vector--so direction and speed both matter) quickly. That generates aerodynamic force proportional to the area on which the wind change is acting. Most of the time the main area of interest is the wing area. But actual changes to the airplane movement are inversely proportional to the mass of the airplane, so generally how much it gets tossed about is proportional to wing loading.
Here is the fun part: most airplanes in a given category of use have pretty similar wing loading (pounds of mass of airliner as currently loaded with fuel and payload per square foot of wing). So they tend to bounce around a similar amount.
But airplanes designed to fly a lot slower (such as the small Cessna and Piper single-engine craft flown by many private pilots) have a much lower wing loading. So, yes, they bounce around more in the same condition, but not because they are small, but because they have big wings in proportion to mass. Similarly, fighter jet aircraft are designed with substantially higher wing loading, and indeed they bounce around less in similar conditions than do commercial airliners (or tankers, or ...)
One of my bosses at Intel was a former French jet fighter pilot, and specifically complained that commercial jets bounced around at low level considerably more than did his former steed. I trotted out this explanation to him (decades ago) and he bought it.
Chris S_2 wrote:I only fly BA
You talk about AA as though it were owned by the United States government and therefore must be superior to all others based here. It isn't. It's the biggest US airline, but it's just a corporation like United, Delta, Southwest, Alaska, etc. From Wikipedia: Through the airline's parent company, American Airlines Group, it is publicly traded under NASDAQ: AAL.
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
@Mike - OK thanks for the
@Mike - OK thanks for the info on Auto pilots, I thought that they did landings as well. I know that take offs are manual with the usual V1, V2, rotate etc. I was also surprised that something the size of an A380 can get thrown about so much in clear air turbulence, twice over Canada on the way home the stewardesses all strapped themselves in. I was at the rear of the upper cabin. The seats forward are all the expensive ones.
@David - I only fly BA and AA because I collect their air miles from the same scheme they are both in. I have 20,000 now. Internal Air Canada flights didn't count, nor did US Airways in 2011.
@Annie - "Whatever you want to do for it is fiiiiiiiiiiiiine, Chris. I'm sure Randy won't mind :)" Not with my legs sweetheart :-(( As for Thai airlines the hostesses are gorgeous, but the flight deck crew all look about 5' tall can they see over the top of the instrument panel?
"somewhere above the ground with nothing beneath you and it apart from a few other bits with rivets and whatnot is technically hair raising enough to put anyone off flying at all. Yet we still do."
Think of the flight crew in their secret hideaway in the luggage compartment of an A380. Even less under their feet than the passengers! And the real fun bit in flying is when you have just smiled sweetly at the BA Stewardess and blagged an extra 1/3 bottle of wine, only to have the full glass end up in your lap when the plane hits turbulence. Should be on everyone's tick list of life's experiences!
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Chris S_2 wrote:I was also
Sure is. I've been over desert on a hot afternoon in a Cessna - back of NSW in summer - and every 10-15 km is a convection cell. What a roller coaster ! Without altering settings the plane can go up and down over a thousand feet as one alternately crosses volumes of rising or falling air. The key thing was not to micro manage that too much, rather better to keep your eyes outside of the plane in case someone else is having the same trouble ..... :-)
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
anniet wrote: Would an
No, not at all. BUT it won't trigger a win for you.
Seti Classic Final Total: 11446 WU.
Worra swizz :-(
Worra swizz :-(
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Quote:Good evening all
There's always one that does, Anniet.
Perhaps a: "Good Day, everyone" - whilst registering an interest in a win - will be less contentious ;-)
I was purchased a handful of helicopter flying lessons by my dear lady wife some two years ago. There was much to remember just leaving the ground.
I was purchased a handful of
Interesting vernacular my dear Sir. Sounds a pleasant diversity that you engaged in there, and I trust that you enjoyed it to its full potential, and landed safely. Trouble is that these days not many people have their feet on the ground.
Waiting for Godot & salvation :-)
Why do doctors have to practice?
You'd think they'd have got it right by now
Would it trigger a win if I
Would it trigger a win if I worked "sasquatch" into a post? Sasparilla? Cabernet sauvignon? A left toin at Albukoique? All of the above in a single post?
David
Miserable old git
Patiently waiting for the asteroid with my name on it.
I reckon a win would be
I reckon a win would be triggered by the first person to mention that a helicopter is an 'eggbeater' !
That's wot my brother sed wen I wuz seven .... and being a serious sort of child I thought long and hard about that. :-))
Cheers, Mike.
I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...
... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal
Chris S_2 wrote:surprised
That is an interesting point. Aircraft jump about when the wind that strikes them changes velocity (a vector--so direction and speed both matter) quickly. That generates aerodynamic force proportional to the area on which the wind change is acting. Most of the time the main area of interest is the wing area. But actual changes to the airplane movement are inversely proportional to the mass of the airplane, so generally how much it gets tossed about is proportional to wing loading.
Here is the fun part: most airplanes in a given category of use have pretty similar wing loading (pounds of mass of airliner as currently loaded with fuel and payload per square foot of wing). So they tend to bounce around a similar amount.
But airplanes designed to fly a lot slower (such as the small Cessna and Piper single-engine craft flown by many private pilots) have a much lower wing loading. So, yes, they bounce around more in the same condition, but not because they are small, but because they have big wings in proportion to mass. Similarly, fighter jet aircraft are designed with substantially higher wing loading, and indeed they bounce around less in similar conditions than do commercial airliners (or tankers, or ...)
One of my bosses at Intel was a former French jet fighter pilot, and specifically complained that commercial jets bounced around at low level considerably more than did his former steed. I trotted out this explanation to him (decades ago) and he bought it.