Why will it not share?

jason
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Boinc will not switch over between ptrojects even thought i have it set to 33 each one...am running climate,einstein and seti(well sitting on seti anyway)

i have upgraded to latest version 5.2.13 and am having no joy.

any suggestions or help would be greatly appriciated

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Why will it not share?

I would guess that your queue is too large. You seem to be returning E@H work exactly 14 days after you download it. This most likely means that you are in EDF mode most of the time and the client will not switch between projects.

A good rule of thumb for setting your queue is to take how long you expect a local outage to last and dividing that by the number of projects attached. So if you expect your local ISP to take 3 days to repair a problem and you are attached to 3 projects put 1 in the 'connect every' setting. If you have an always on connection and are attached to multiple projects there is not much reason to set the queue higher than 0.1 days.

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Hi Jason, it's good to have

Hi Jason, it's good to have you here at EAH. We hope you enjoy your stay.

Please have a look at the opening post in this thread and particularly note the edit at the bottom of the post. Do the comments in this message cover your problem which you call "switch over between projects"? Is your problem sorted if you suspend Seti as described in the message?

If this is NOT your problem, could you please describe what it is more fully, thanks, and include, by copying and pasting say 20 lines of context from your BOINC Manager message log, those messages which do show us what you are talking about.

EDIT: Thanks John, posts crossed. No doubt you are right about the "connect" setting. I should have looked at that first :).

Cheers,
Gary.

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RE: I would guess that your

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I would guess that your queue is too large. You seem to be returning E@H work exactly 14 days after you download it. This most likely means that you are in EDF mode most of the time and the client will not switch between projects.

A good rule of thumb for setting your queue is to take how long you expect a local outage to last and dividing that by the number of projects attached. So if you expect your local ISP to take 3 days to repair a problem and you are attached to 3 projects put 1 in the 'connect every' setting. If you have an always on connection and are attached to multiple projects there is not much reason to set the queue higher than 0.1 days.

the reason it took 14 days to return any work for Einstien is that seti ran all of its projects first. all my projects are set to 0.1 [days] as i have a broadband connection.

the problem seems to be with boinc itself not "sharing" cpu time between projects i am running namely........at this time due to seti being suspended........just E@H and climate.

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RE: Hi Jason, it's good to

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Hi Jason, it's good to have you here at EAH. We hope you enjoy your stay.

Please have a look at the opening post in this thread and particularly note the edit at the bottom of the post. Do the comments in this message cover your problem which you call "switch over between projects"? Is your problem sorted if you suspend Seti as described in the message?

If this is NOT your problem, could you please describe what it is more fully, thanks, and include, by copying and pasting say 20 lines of context from your BOINC Manager message log, those messages which do show us what you are talking about.

EDIT: Thanks John, posts crossed. No doubt you are right about the "connect" setting. I should have looked at that first :).

THank you for welcome,

the post doesnt describe my problems, it might be best if i said that my dad is using an older version of BOINC and his "shares" his cpu time "switching" between projects every hour, whereas mine doesnt seem to want to do this.

as for posting the message log all it contains at the moment is lots of these

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2005-12-11 12:18:18 [SETI@home] Reason: Requested by user
2005-12-11 12:18:18 [SETI@home] Reporting 2 results
2005-12-11 12:18:40 [---] Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu]
2005-12-11 12:18:43 [SETI@home] Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of -106
2005-12-11 12:18:43 [SETI@home] No schedulers responded

and all that because i tried uploading my last two seti projects

maybe this and the other reply might help you understand my problem better.

OH BTW my Dad is running BOINC VER: 4.25 maybe this will help as well

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please can you tell me how to

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please can you tell me how to get that sig you have for myself, the picture of your stats, i have seen it on a few peoples posts and am wondering how to do i, thank you in advance

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Jason, John Keck is 100%

Jason,

John Keck is 100% correct. You should set your cache to 0.1 days until normal round-robin scheduling is restored. Then you could look at increasing it slowly and gradually if you really must have work on hand going stale.

Cheers,
Gary.

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Jason, If you really have

Jason,

If you really have a 0.1 days cache setting it would be impossible for you to have all those EAH results sitting in your work queue. Can you go to your account page on the EAH website and check your general preferences again please. Do you think you have separate settings at Seti compared to those at EAH? Maybe you set EAH to 0.1 and then went to Seti and set a much bigger value? The latest setting applies to all projects to which your computer is attached. You look like you have about a 2 to 3 day setting. Because you aborted 2 results, EAH is restricting you to 6/day which is a bit fortunate in a way :).

Cheers,
Gary.

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RE: please can you tell me

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please can you tell me how to get that sig you have for myself, the picture of your stats, i have seen it on a few peoples posts and am wondering how to do i, thank you in advance

This is one question that I can answer :)

It's actually very easy. There are a bunch of stats sites that offer the boxes. The one I personally use is Munday Web.

It was really easy to set up, and they give you the code to cut and paste into the signature box on the project's webpage.

Other people can post the service they use. I think BOINC Synergy (sp?) is another popular one, and you don't have to be a member of their team to use the stats box.

Hope this gets you pointed in the right direction.

Kathryn

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RE: ...the post doesnt

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...the post doesnt describe my problems ...

Yep, I was barking up the wrong tree - sorry about that

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it might be best if i said that my dad is using an older version of BOINC and his "shares" his cpu time "switching" between projects every hour, whereas mine doesnt seem to want to do this.

Yep, I've really got the message about "switching" now :).

Your Dad has a version that doesn't do sophisticated scheduling like the latest versions do. You might think that your Dad's one is doing better. It is and there has to be a good reason. A part of that reason could be the project mix (are they both the same?) but more likely it is the "Connect to network" preference setting. There has got to be a problem with yours.

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as for posting the message log all it contains at the moment is lots of these

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2005-12-11 12:18:18 [SETI@home] Reason: Requested by user
2005-12-11 12:18:18 [SETI@home] Reporting 2 results
2005-12-11 12:18:40 [---] Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu]
2005-12-11 12:18:43 [SETI@home] Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of -106
2005-12-11 12:18:43 [SETI@home] No schedulers responded

and all that because i tried uploading my last two seti projects

Precisely. Here is a line by line explanation:-

  • * Line 1 - You manually updated the Seti project
    * Line 2 - Because you had two results to report
    * Line 3 - However, Seti is way overloaded and refuses to talk to you
    * Line 4 - It sent back a

-106 error code to tell you why
* Line 5 - And your local BOINC client tells you why as well

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maybe this and the other reply might help you understand my problem better.

Sure does, and hopefully you did look at the list of error codes in the Wiki and scroll down to read what it said about -106 where one of the possible causes was listed as overloaded servers - exactly the problem here. Basically there are a huge number of people quite innocently doing a DOS attack on Seti at the moment :).

Cheers,
Gary.

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RE: RE: ...the post

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Quote:
...the post doesnt describe my problems ...

Yep, I was barking up the wrong tree - sorry about that

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it might be best if i said that my dad is using an older version of BOINC and his "shares" his cpu time "switching" between projects every hour, whereas mine doesnt seem to want to do this.

Yep, I've really got the message about "switching" now :).

Your Dad has a version that doesn't do sophisticated scheduling like the latest versions do. You might think that your Dad's one is doing better. It is and there has to be a good reason. A part of that reason could be the project mix (are they both the same?) but more likely it is the "Connect to network" preference setting. There has got to be a problem with yours.

both computers have the same setting and are running off the same network as he is living here until new house is ready for him to move into, thats why i can know for sure that everything is the same thru out all settings.

so am stil lat a loss as to why this version will not switch between projects

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