Why not HTTPS in BOINC?

Bryan
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Topic 220914

I swear https used to work to attach to the project, but now even if I specify https it seems to redirect to http.  Why?

Bryan
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The join now instructions say

The join now instructions say to join:
https://einsteinathome.org\

but the URL embedded in BOINC is http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu

Can we switch the default URL boinc uses to https://einsteinathome.org ?  Thanks!

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Bryan wrote: The join now

Bryan wrote:

The join now instructions say to join:
https://einsteinathome.org\

but the URL embedded in BOINC is http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu

Can we switch the default URL boinc uses to https://einsteinathome.org ?  Thanks!

Both links go directly to my https://einsteinathome.org webpage.

George

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Bryan
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Yes, my concern is not the

Yes, my concern is not the website.  It's the default way we connect the first time to a project, using BOINC/HTTP - that makes a MITM trivial. If the master URL (and the one in BOINC) was https://einsteinathome.org an attacker needs to acquire a valid cert for einsteinathome.org.

Bernd Machenschalk
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We tried to change the

We tried to change the MASTER_URL in the project configuration once. But when we did this, even with just changing from http to https all clients already attached to the project got a message saying that the URL of the project has changed and they should detach and re-attach. This is something we didn't want to enforce on all the existing users.

We are working on a system that allows for testing a series of configuration changes that would avoid these messages, but this work is still in progress.

BM

Bryan
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Awesome, if I can help test

Awesome, if I can help test those changes I'd be happy to!

Another change that can help just landed - https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/commit/e4c6319b1c224bc64294729a76606e0b79c99104 (Although I thought a similar fix was already in).  Will follow up when it's in a released BOINC.

 

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Bryan wrote: Yes, my concern

Bryan wrote:

Yes, my concern is not the website.  It's the default way we connect the first time to a project, using BOINC/HTTP - that makes a MITM trivial. If the master URL (and the one in BOINC) was https://einsteinathome.org an attacker needs to acquire a valid cert for einsteinathome.org

It also means that if you use the exclude command in a cc_config.xml file you MUST use the http prefix instead of the https prefix. It causes problems for those with multiple gpu's trying to run multiple projects on multiple gpu's.

Bryan
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The Windows version 7.6.20

The Windows version 7.6.20 should make the http->https seamless - but that might only work if you keep the same urls.

Mac/Linux users likely still have to do the detach/re-attach dance.

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