Total Average Credit?

bendthebarman
bendthebarman
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Credit: 24,992,791
RAC: 225,831
Topic 227771

Hi everyone,

 

I purchased a new work computer over a month and decided to set up SETI to run during my off hours. Well, the hunt for SETI lead me here and I'm enjoying donating my computer time. I'm up to nearly 2,000,000 credit and have an average credit of 159,929.

My only question has to do with average credit. What exactly does it mean? 

I took a look in FAQ but couldn't fine it. Thanks in advance.

 

GWGeorge007
GWGeorge007
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Credit: 1,771,953,167
RAC: 6,898,458

It is not a simple as you

It is not as simple as you might think.  Here is a webpage that pretty much explains how it is calculated.

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Recent_Average_Credit

George

A proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association)

bendthebarman
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Credit: 24,992,791
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Thanks. Much aprpeciated.

Thanks. Much appreciated.

bendthebarman
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GWGeorge007
GWGeorge007
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Try this

Try this link

https://web.archive.org/web/20120418125739/http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Recent_Average_Credit

George

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Exard3k
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It roughly is the average

It roughly is the average amount of credits per day ,recorded over about a month. The actual calculation is a bit more specific and more sophisticated, but that's pretty much the essence. It slowly climbs up up to the maximum (assuming 24/7 max performance) and slowly fades out over weeks if you stop.

mikey
mikey
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bendthebarman wrote: Hi

bendthebarman wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I purchased a new work computer over a month and decided to set up SETI to run during my off hours. Well, the hunt for SETI lead me here and I'm enjoying donating my computer time. I'm up to nearly 2,000,000 credit and have an average credit of 159,929.

My only question has to do with average credit. What exactly does it mean? 

I took a look in FAQ but couldn't fine it. Thanks in advance. 

If you think of driving a car your speedometer shows how fast you are going right now and if you take you foot off the gas it slowly drops to zero, Average Credit is similar except it climbs more slowly and then slows down even more. Alot of people use it to figure out how their pc's are doing BUT credits are NOT comparable from Project to Project, so your total and average credits here at Einstein have zero to do with any other Project except when adding them all together at a stats site. Some Project give more or less credits per task which obviously affects your Average Credits, so ie crunching Gamma-ray pulsar search #5 tasks will give you 693 credits while taking 13 hours for each tasks and your total and average credits will go up much slower than if you crunched Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo, large) tasks that earn 500 credits for each task while taking about 8.5 hours each or even the Gamma-ray pulsar binary search #1 on GPUs that earn 3465 credits per task and take about 10 minutes each. Now to be fair not every task can be run on every machine but if you look down at the  bottom of every Einstein page is the Application list and the Server Status page, combing both will help you figure out which tasks might or might not run on your pc.

Jinkei
Jinkei
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Thank you Bend, this question

Thank you Bend, this question has been helpful for me too. Especially you answer, Mikey. I never wanted to select which tasks I got, since I am doing this to help science and not earn points. But now your explanations made me wonder: are points to be used to judge whether your machine is suitable for a task?

I restarted in Nov last year and celebrated reaching 10M points a week ago. But I have been getting a LOT of Binary Radio Pulsar searches which take my processor 36,848 s in processor time and give 500 credits. But since that time I have suddenly been getting a lot of Gamma-ray pulsar binary searches, which run on my GPU (3070 RTX) which take it about 230s processor time and give me 3,465 credits. So in a week my PC now added 3M credits, exploding my RAC to 230K. That left me baffled, but also made me wonder.

If your machine seems very bad at a task (takes very long for very few credits) you could conclude that thats then best left to others (as it might be construed as a waste of energy). But if everyone does that but also gravitates towards the same tasks, certain tasks might be left undone. So that's why I don't want to do that. Or am I misunderstanding the whole concept?

(sorry if this hijacks the thread, I can move)

E pluribus unum...

mikey
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Jinkei wrote: Thank you

Jinkei wrote:

Thank you Bend, this question has been helpful for me too. Especially you answer, Mikey. I never wanted to select which tasks I got, since I am doing this to help science and not earn points. But now your explanations made me wonder: are points to be used to judge whether your machine is suitable for a task? 

No one here at Einstein has answered the question about whether points and optimum tasks are connected.

GWGeorge007
GWGeorge007
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Jinkei wrote: .....are

Jinkei wrote:

.....are points to be used to judge whether your machine is suitable for a task?

 

I sincerely don't think so.  The points are determined by the project host location and not by BOINC.  I suspect that the "project" will send out tasks if your machine has any chance of running it, whether it takes a long time or a short time.  If your machine does not have the wherewithal ( i.e. a GPU with enough memory and horsepower, or a CPU rated for certain tasks ) to actually perform the tasks needed by the project, you won't get any.

George

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Mike Hewson
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- I was under the impression

- I was under the impression that Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Arecibo, large) WUs had eight tasks within, where each of those is awarded 500 credits. So the total is 4000. But I could be wrong.

- the GPU based gamma ray pulsar WUs are very good for RAC by comparison.

- while the project uses 'locality scheduling' ie. targeting work units as per host type/characteristics : I am not aware of RAC being used in that process.

Cheers, Mike.

I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter ...

... and my other CPU is a Ryzen 5950X :-) Blaise Pascal

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